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[carbuncle]

(mod note: "Conflicts of interest, paedophila images" subtitle added)
(mod note: See previous topic, 'Wikimedia UK's Fæ, A new name for an old face', for background)

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Should we start a betting pool on how long it stays up and who closes/deletes it?

[Selina]

Nothing wrong with bondage between consenting adults though. But putting pictures up of naked little boys is the glorification of paedophilia and children cannot CONSENT to having photographs taken of them like that... It's an old photo but that doesn't mean it's still not abuse that some creep got that child to hold up that fish and say "make the fish suck on it"...

I think a lot of the reason there isn't a backlash to is actually because it's a male child and the users are mostly male, it's less shocking to them - but if he was parading around a picture of a naked little girl instead I bet there wouldn't be such apparent apathy

[Web Fred]

Nothing wrong with bondage between consenting adults though. But putting pictures up of naked little boys is the glorification of paedophilia and children cannot CONSENT to having photographs taken of them like that... It's an old photo but that doesn't mean it's still not abuse that some creep got that child to hold up that fish and say "make the fish suck on it"...

I think a lot of the reason there isn't a backlash to is actually because it's a male child and the users are mostly male, it's less shocking to them - but if he was parading around a picture of a naked little girl instead I bet there wouldn't be such apparent apathy

I'm not sure the background you are giving to that image is altogether correct. I also don't think the lad is as young as his face would imply. His well-hung anatomy and scrotum size would point to him being 15 or 16 give or take. And in those days, and at that age he would have been no innocent.

In any case it's a nice picture that I see as non-sexual in tone. No more so than a Titan nude anyway,

Ultimately, it's about the lulz...

I save them for Ottava and Kohs.

[Selina]

in those days, and at that age he would have been no innocent.

oh god please can we not go there, this is the whole paedophilia/"pederasty"/"young boy lover" thing all over again. ickickick.

you said you had kids earlier in the food regulation for schools thread, would you really feel happy with someone who obviously found a picture of a child arousing to have access to Special:Emailuser with the many many many children on WP?

[Web Fred]

in those days, and at that age he would have been no innocent.

oh god please can we not go there, this is the whole paedophilia/"pederasty"/"young boy lover" thing all over again. ickickick.

I have no interest in boy-loving being straight as I am. And when I said innocent, I didn't mean it in the way you suggest.

But pretty much any kid image can get a paedo off. Many get their kicks from kid's swimsuit pics in catalogues.

I'm still not convinced that images of this type were taken by, and for, paedos. Not everyone sees naked bodies as a sexual thing. You seem to be projecting fears that have been stirred up my the media over the last few decades. In some people it's a knee-jerk reaction.

And yes I agree, the thought of a paedo jacking off to this is very much an ick-ick thing. That, however, does not make the image itself an ick thing.

This post has been edited by Cunningly Linguistic: Sun 29th January 2012, 7:28pm

[carbuncle]

I'm still not convinced that images of this type were taken by, and for, paedos. Not everyone sees naked bodies as a sexual thing. You seem to be projecting fears that have been stirred up my the media over the last few decades. In some people it's a knee-jerk reaction.

Really? Google the photographer, Wilhelm von Gloeden. One of the first links that comes up for me is to nambla.org. WP states that one of his models became his lover at the age of 14. Let's not argue over whether or not that makes him a paedophile.

Van Haeften put the image on their WP user page. They were making a point. They knew that some people would be offended by that particular image of a nude adolescent (more so than, say, an older nude male). I believe they were saying "I can do this. You don't like it. You can't stop me from doing it. Nyah nyah".