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> Michigan State offers course on WP adminship, should be an easy A if you suck up to the right people
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post Sat 28th January 2012, 11:18pm
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According to this, Dr. Jonathan Obar, assistant visiting professor in the Michigan State telecommunications department, "is teaching a course this semester on how Wikipedia is governed and how administrators are selected." The students' coursework will be based in part on interviews they will conduct with Wikipedia admins. About 25 admins have already signed up to be interviewed.

A previous thread discussed an article by Obar which sung the praises of using Wikipedia in the classroom. I guess he's progressed from teaching students to use Wikipedia to teaching students about Wikipedia's inner functions. Unfortunately, I suspect that Obar will teach the course with a pro-Wikipedia slant.

I was unable to find a course description on MSU's website. Presumably it's out of date.

What do you think the sourcing standards are like for papers in this novel class? Surely there's not much out there in the way of peer-reviewed literature about Wikipedia's governance.
More to the point, is this the first time you've heard of a college course being taught about Wikipedia's inner workings?
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post Sun 29th January 2012, 4:04am
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I would be curious to know what, if any, financial support Dr. Obar is getting from the Foundation. It's also interesting that he lists himself as a fellow, but doesn't appear on the Foundation's own list.

Ah, found it. He's a "teaching fellow". Whatever that means. From what I can tell, not much. I would say, however, that these "teaching fellows" are people who should be monitored for wikistupidity in higher education.
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Sun 29th January 2012, 4:04am) *

I would be curious to know what, if any, financial support Dr. Obar is getting from the Foundation. It's also interesting that he lists himself as a fellow, but doesn't appear on the Foundation's own list.

Ah, found it. He's a "teaching fellow". Whatever that means. From what I can tell, not much. I would say, however, that these "teaching fellows" are people who should be monitored for wikistupidity in higher education.


Hopefully, a WR reader will enroll in the course and keep up a constant barrage of questions to the instructor about the contradictions, dichotomies, inconsistencies, and corruption in WP's administrative processes and the almost complete absence of any kind of administrative leadership from the Foundation. What would be even better is if that student was thrown out of class or given a failing grade.

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Ego Trippin' (Part Two)   Michigan State offers course on WP adminship   Sat 28th January 2012, 11:18pm
Cunningly Linguistic   Is this, I wonder, a precursor to being able to ge...   Sat 28th January 2012, 11:22pm
Tarc   Looks like Professor Obar had a bit of a tiff last...   Sat 28th January 2012, 11:29pm
Abd   My, my. The good professor seems to have a bit of ...   Sun 29th January 2012, 1:21am
Cunningly Linguistic   Does the professor have any idea of the ethical i...   Sun 29th January 2012, 1:31am
Abd   [quote name='Abd' post='295490' date='Sun 29th Ja...   Sun 29th January 2012, 2:12am
Cunningly Linguistic   [quote name='Abd' post='295490' date='Sun 29th J...   Sun 29th January 2012, 2:17am
SB_Johnny   Tempting, but nah.   Sun 29th January 2012, 2:18am
Kelly Martin   It should be noted that Dr. Obar is a Wikimedia fe...   Sun 29th January 2012, 3:39am
thekohser   It should be noted that Dr. Obar is a Wikimedia f...   Sun 29th January 2012, 3:51am
everyking   Hopefully, a WR reader will enroll in the course ...   Tue 7th February 2012, 4:28pm
melloden   Hopefully, a WR reader will enroll in the course...   Tue 7th February 2012, 8:25pm
thekohser   I was thinking it might be very educational if he...   Tue 7th February 2012, 8:33pm
TungstenCarbide   I was thinking it might be very educational if he ...   Tue 7th February 2012, 8:54pm
timbo   Hopefully, a WR reader will enroll in the course...   Sat 11th February 2012, 8:26pm
EricBarbour   I don't understand why y'all are complaini...   Sun 29th January 2012, 6:47am
Cunningly Linguistic   I don't understand why y'all are complain...   Sun 29th January 2012, 8:30am
thekohser   ...and might also be collecting money from the WM...   Sun 29th January 2012, 3:54pm
carbuncle   ...and might also be collecting money from the W...   Sun 29th January 2012, 6:07pm
Abd   I don't understand why y'all are complaini...   Sun 29th January 2012, 9:37pm
EricBarbour   I'm not complaining about Obar, speaking for m...   Sun 29th January 2012, 10:20pm
Fusion   Wiki-cheerleaders are extremely deviant in the wo...   Sun 29th January 2012, 10:30pm
Ego Trippin' (Part Two)   [quote name='Abd' post='295654' date='Sun 29th Ja...   Wed 1st February 2012, 1:44am
Kelly Martin   One letter from Joe Random Idiot on the Internet i...   Sun 29th January 2012, 4:47pm
thekohser   Thankfully, Obar is not paid on behalf of his work...   Sun 29th January 2012, 11:27pm
Bielle   I found this today on Gwen Gale's user talk ...   Sat 11th February 2012, 2:18am
Ego Trippin' (Part Two)   I found [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...   Sat 11th February 2012, 2:31am
thekohser   I've been in e-mail correspondence with Dr. Ob...   Sat 11th February 2012, 2:22pm
Cunningly Linguistic   I've been in e-mail correspondence with Dr. O...   Sat 11th February 2012, 10:34pm
TungstenCarbide   I've been in e-mail correspondence with Dr. Ob...   Sat 11th February 2012, 11:22pm
Cunningly Linguistic   [quote name='Cunningly Linguistic' post='297443' ...   Sun 12th February 2012, 1:40am
TungstenCarbide   [quote name='Cunningly Linguistic' post='297443' d...   Sun 12th February 2012, 2:00am
SB_Johnny   [quote name='Cunningly Linguistic' post='297455' ...   Sun 12th February 2012, 5:22am
Fusion   Shall we lock him in the whine cellar and watch t...   Sun 12th February 2012, 9:48am
Cunningly Linguistic   [quote name='Cunningly Linguistic' post='297455' ...   Sun 12th February 2012, 9:51am


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