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> Michigan State offers course on WP adminship, should be an easy A if you suck up to the right people
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post Sat 28th January 2012, 11:18pm
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According to this, Dr. Jonathan Obar, assistant visiting professor in the Michigan State telecommunications department, "is teaching a course this semester on how Wikipedia is governed and how administrators are selected." The students' coursework will be based in part on interviews they will conduct with Wikipedia admins. About 25 admins have already signed up to be interviewed.

A previous thread discussed an article by Obar which sung the praises of using Wikipedia in the classroom. I guess he's progressed from teaching students to use Wikipedia to teaching students about Wikipedia's inner functions. Unfortunately, I suspect that Obar will teach the course with a pro-Wikipedia slant.

I was unable to find a course description on MSU's website. Presumably it's out of date.

What do you think the sourcing standards are like for papers in this novel class? Surely there's not much out there in the way of peer-reviewed literature about Wikipedia's governance.
More to the point, is this the first time you've heard of a college course being taught about Wikipedia's inner workings?
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post Sat 11th February 2012, 2:22pm
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I've been in e-mail correspondence with Dr. Obar, and I encouraged him several times to join WR. Glad to see that he's going to take that step. Please treat him kindly, as he says he has not made any final decisions about the value of Wikipedia.
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post Sat 11th February 2012, 10:34pm
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I've been in e-mail correspondence with Dr. Obar, and I encouraged him several times to join WR. Glad to see that he's going to take that step. Please treat him kindly, as he says he has not made any final decisions about the value of Wikipedia.


And who has made their mind up about the value of Dr Obar?
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post Sat 11th February 2012, 11:22pm
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I've been in e-mail correspondence with Dr. Obar, and I encouraged him several times to join WR. Glad to see that he's going to take that step. Please treat him kindly, as he says he has not made any final decisions about the value of Wikipedia.
And who has made their mind up about the value of Dr Obar?

You're an idiot, Cunningly Linguistic.

Greg, I agree it's a good idea to invite these people whatever their opinions on Wikipedia. There's all kinds of things he'll learn here that are censored and forbidden to speak of at Wikipedia.

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I've been in e-mail correspondence with Dr. Obar, and I encouraged him several times to join WR. Glad to see that he's going to take that step. Please treat him kindly, as he says he has not made any final decisions about the value of Wikipedia.
And who has made their mind up about the value of Dr Obar?

You're an idiot, Cunningly Linguistic.


Well technically I'm a genius, but you have your viewpoints on everything and I doubt I can dissuade you of any of them.

Given that I am technically a genius I seem to be able to see the hole in the erstwhile Prof's plan, ie given that the average 13 year-old admin took roughly 10 mins, give or take, to suss out how one goes about becoming an admin. Which is of course to:
  • Spend about 6 months making friends whilst simultaneously kissing the butts of some of the most power-hungry admins (and of course identifying them in the first place).
  • Take on the task of wiki-gnoming to up one's edit count whilst not running into trouble whilst creating content (whatever you do, do not try creating content, you'll only piss people off in the process).
  • Just revert obvious vandalism, leave non-obvious vandalism. Don't even try repunctuating anything or you might run into international differences and as a result piss someone off.
  • If, in spite of everything, you do accidentally piss off someone, apologise effusively then do your best to make friends with the person.
  • Oh yeah, agree with whatever Jimbo says and be as obsequious as possible in the process.
  • Then start an RfA in which one only gives answers that are expected and none that involve truth.
  • Then sit back and wait for all your 'friends' to !vote your ass into a lifetime of power.

Now how the Prof intends to create a semester course out of that I have no idea, but then some people will do anything for a job...especially gypsy profs. Mind you, he can save himself some ground work and just point his prospective students at this post.

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Greg, I agree it's a good idea to invite these people whatever their opinions on Wikipedia. There's all kinds of things he'll learn here that are censored and forbidden to speak of at Wikipedia.


All of which are entirely inconsequential and unimportant in the real world.
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post Sun 12th February 2012, 2:00am
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I've been in e-mail correspondence with Dr. Obar, and I encouraged him several times to join WR. Glad to see that he's going to take that step. Please treat him kindly, as he says he has not made any final decisions about the value of Wikipedia.
And who has made their mind up about the value of Dr Obar?
You're an idiot, Cunningly Linguistic.
Well technically I'm a genius,

maybe you and Ottava have more in common than what first meets the eye.

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I've been in e-mail correspondence with Dr. Obar, and I encouraged him several times to join WR. Glad to see that he's going to take that step. Please treat him kindly, as he says he has not made any final decisions about the value of Wikipedia.
And who has made their mind up about the value of Dr Obar?
You're an idiot, Cunningly Linguistic.
Well technically I'm a genius,

maybe you and Ottava have more in common than what first meets the eye.
Shall we lock him in the whine cellar and watch the cage match? evilgrin.gif
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 12th February 2012, 5:22am) *

Shall we lock him in the whine cellar and watch the cage match? evilgrin.gif

ohmy.gif Would that not be cruelty to children?

(Please do not argue that they are old enough to be deemed adults!)
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Ego Trippin' (Part Two)   Michigan State offers course on WP adminship   Sat 28th January 2012, 11:18pm
Cunningly Linguistic   Is this, I wonder, a precursor to being able to ge...   Sat 28th January 2012, 11:22pm
Tarc   Looks like Professor Obar had a bit of a tiff last...   Sat 28th January 2012, 11:29pm
Abd   My, my. The good professor seems to have a bit of ...   Sun 29th January 2012, 1:21am
Cunningly Linguistic   Does the professor have any idea of the ethical i...   Sun 29th January 2012, 1:31am
Abd   [quote name='Abd' post='295490' date='Sun 29th Ja...   Sun 29th January 2012, 2:12am
Cunningly Linguistic   [quote name='Abd' post='295490' date='Sun 29th J...   Sun 29th January 2012, 2:17am
SB_Johnny   Tempting, but nah.   Sun 29th January 2012, 2:18am
Kelly Martin   It should be noted that Dr. Obar is a Wikimedia fe...   Sun 29th January 2012, 3:39am
thekohser   It should be noted that Dr. Obar is a Wikimedia f...   Sun 29th January 2012, 3:51am
Kelly Martin   I would be curious to know what, if any, financial...   Sun 29th January 2012, 4:04am
Cla68   I would be curious to know what, if any, financia...   Sun 29th January 2012, 4:59am
everyking   Hopefully, a WR reader will enroll in the course ...   Tue 7th February 2012, 4:28pm
melloden   Hopefully, a WR reader will enroll in the course...   Tue 7th February 2012, 8:25pm
thekohser   I was thinking it might be very educational if he...   Tue 7th February 2012, 8:33pm
TungstenCarbide   I was thinking it might be very educational if he ...   Tue 7th February 2012, 8:54pm
timbo   Hopefully, a WR reader will enroll in the course...   Sat 11th February 2012, 8:26pm
EricBarbour   I don't understand why y'all are complaini...   Sun 29th January 2012, 6:47am
Cunningly Linguistic   I don't understand why y'all are complain...   Sun 29th January 2012, 8:30am
thekohser   ...and might also be collecting money from the WM...   Sun 29th January 2012, 3:54pm
carbuncle   ...and might also be collecting money from the W...   Sun 29th January 2012, 6:07pm
Abd   I don't understand why y'all are complaini...   Sun 29th January 2012, 9:37pm
EricBarbour   I'm not complaining about Obar, speaking for m...   Sun 29th January 2012, 10:20pm
Fusion   Wiki-cheerleaders are extremely deviant in the wo...   Sun 29th January 2012, 10:30pm
Ego Trippin' (Part Two)   [quote name='Abd' post='295654' date='Sun 29th Ja...   Wed 1st February 2012, 1:44am
Kelly Martin   One letter from Joe Random Idiot on the Internet i...   Sun 29th January 2012, 4:47pm
thekohser   Thankfully, Obar is not paid on behalf of his work...   Sun 29th January 2012, 11:27pm
Bielle   I found this today on Gwen Gale's user talk ...   Sat 11th February 2012, 2:18am
Ego Trippin' (Part Two)   I found [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...   Sat 11th February 2012, 2:31am
thekohser   I've been in e-mail correspondence with Dr. Ob...   Sat 11th February 2012, 2:22pm
Cunningly Linguistic   [quote name='Cunningly Linguistic' post='297455' ...   Sun 12th February 2012, 9:51am


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