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One Of The Nation's Top Historians Decides It's Time To Embrace Wikipedia

The Atlantic
By Rebecca J. Rosen The world of academic scholarship — particularly the field of history — has at times had a strained relationship with the massive collaborative project that is Wikipedia. In 2007, for example, the history department at Middlebury …

[Fusion]

For example, I hold a BA (high honors), a Masters, and ABD toward PhD, and I hold a director-level position in marketing research with a Fortune 100 company.

Greg

I do urge you for your own good not to be so pretentious. It is the opposite of productive. (Maybe I should have a signature "Nobody knows I have a PhD. )

Anyone not suffering from a furry fox suit-induced bout of heat stroke

In this weather? At present a fox fur would be a good idea.

[thekohser]

For example, I hold a BA (high honors), a Masters, and ABD toward PhD, and I hold a director-level position in marketing research with a Fortune 100 company.

Greg

I do urge you for your own good not to be so pretentious. It is the opposite of productive. (Maybe I should have a signature "Nobody knows I have a PhD. )

Who is this "Fusion", advising me now? How do I know you have my best interests in mind?

See, I posted a very simple summary of my credentials, to which Ericsson cried out that they don't count for anything on Wikipedia. Another critic (not at all going by a real name, of course) called me a "twat" for posting my credentials. Then, I posted my Wikipedia-related credentials, to which Ericsson responded by rather curtly calling me "Kohs" (not "Mr. Kohs", or "Greg", which both would have seemed more appropriate to me -- really, who addresses someone in conversation by their last name only?), and by saying that Wikipedia Review is "dedicated to undermining Wikipedia in any way possible" and asking me how many blocked accounts I have on Wikipedia.

Are these actually relevant to addressing my credentials to speak about Wikipedia?

Maybe I should just create pseudonymous accounts like "icanhazfreeculture" to respond however I want on articles like the one run by Atlantic here.

[Fusion]

Who is this "Fusion", advising me now? How do I know you have my best interests in mind?

That is very cynical. It is also irrelevant. If I gave you my real name, address and date of birth, would that help you to know whether I give good advice? As you are an expert in market research, do you know the meaning of my account name?

This post has been edited by Fusion: Tue 7th February 2012, 10:10pm

[thekohser]

Who is this "Fusion", advising me now? How do I know you have my best interests in mind?

That is very cynical. It is also irrelevant. If I gave you my real name, address and date of birth, would that help you to know whether I give good advice? As you are an expert in market research, do you know the meaning of my account name?

Because you say "It is also irrelevant" doesn't make it irrelevant. I know the meaning of the word "fusion", but I am not deciphering any special significant meaning (unless you're talking about data fusion, such as data enrichment based on ZIP codes or some such), whereby your advice to me is any more meaningful.

In fact, I do heartily believe that if you gave your real name, address, and date of birth, that would help me to know whether you give good advice. For example, if your real name is Guy Chapman, UK expert on cycling helmets and male opera composers, then I would know that your advice is likely driven by personal vendetta, not earnest guidance.

[Fusion]

if your real name is Guy Chapman, UK expert on cycling helmets and male opera composers, then I would know that your advice is likely driven by personal vendetta, not earnest guidance.

No, I am not this Guy Chapman. I concede that I from time to time ride a bicycle and enjoy Russian opera (which is largely male in that most of the leading characters are male), but these details really are irrelevant. Nor do I see how giving you what I am sure many here will regard as good advice could be regarded as part of a vendetta. But if you shall not listen to me then it does not matter to me.

This post has been edited by Fusion: Wed 8th February 2012, 12:37pm

[EricBarbour]

if your real name is Guy Chapman, UK expert on cycling helmets and male opera composers, then I would know that your advice is likely driven by personal vendetta, not earnest guidance.

No, I am not this Guy Chapman. I concede that I from time to time ride a bicycle and enjoy Russian opera (which is largely male in that most of the leading characters are male), but these details really are irrelevant.

So, how do you feel about giant boobs?

....and by saying that Wikipedia Review is "dedicated to undermining Wikipedia in any way possible" and asking me how many blocked accounts I have on Wikipedia.

To which you respond as follows:

Wikipedia's two top editors, Rich Farmbrough and Justin Knapp, have both been blocked numerous times. For a variety of reasons, some valid and some just pissy. And neither Farmbrough nor Mr. Knapp has changed their bot-editing activities substantially in response to these critiques. Frankly, after looking at their work, I can only conclude that both of them are thrashing Wikipedia articles for their own perverse needs, and have no interest in actually writing or improving content.

And how does that bullshit "help" the mighty Wikipedia?