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The ‘Undue Weight’ of Truth on Wikipedia

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By Timothy Messer-Kruse • For the past 10 years I've immersed myself in the details of one of the most famous events in American labor history, the Haymarket riot and trial of 1886. Along the way I've written two books and a couple of articles about the …
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post Mon 13th February 2012, 2:01am
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I have quoted some of this fantastic article in condensed form for those without access to The Chronicle, tying to stay within the bounds of "fair use". I hope this will whet your appetite enough to purchase the article if you are a conscientious critic of Wikipedia:

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... I have not resolved all the mysteries that surround the [Haymarket] bombing, but I have dug deeply enough to be sure that the claim that the trial was bereft of evidence is flatly wrong.... So I removed the line about there being "no evidence" and provided a full explanation.... Within minutes my changes were reversed. The explanation: "You must provide reliable sources for your assertions to make changes along these lines to the article."

That was curious, as I had cited the documents that proved my point, including verbatim testimony from the trial published online by the Library of Congress.... Wikipedia requires its contributors to rely on secondary sources, or, as my critic informed me, "published books."...

So I waited two years, until my book on the trial was published. "Now, at last, I have a proper Wikipedia leg to stand on," I thought as I opened the page and found at least a dozen statements that were factual errors, including some that contradicted their own cited sources....

My improvement lasted five minutes before a Wiki-cop scolded me, "I hope you will familiarize yourself with some of Wikipedia's policies, such as verifiability and undue weight. If all historians save one say that the sky was green in 1888, our policies require that we write 'Most historians write that the sky was green, but one says the sky was blue.'..."

I guess this gives me a glimmer of hope that someday, perhaps before another century goes by, enough of my fellow scholars will adopt my views that I can change that Wikipedia entry. Until then I will have to continue to shout that the sky was blue.


This is what happens when crowdsourcing is used as a model for writing an encyclopedia. A commitment to excellence in referencing is abandoned in favor of a slavish adherence to a rule-based writing model that promotes manipulation of the text by amateurs and interlopers. This produces a reference which can easily be at huge variance with the best available scholarship on a topic.
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post Mon 13th February 2012, 1:55pm
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Could you run through Verifiability not Truth once more?
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This is what happens when crowdsourcing is used as a model for writing an encyclopedia. A commitment to excellence in referencing is abandoned in favor of a slavish adherence to a rule-based writing model that promotes manipulation of the text by amateurs and interlopers. This produces a reference which can easily be at huge variance with the best available scholarship on a topic.

It is always worth reminding ourselves of that.

Wikipedia is (now) based on the premise that "anyone can edit" in the sense that even if you don't know what you are talking about you can make a positive contribution, there is no skill. As soon as anyone suggests otherwise, the WikiMagic is lost, so there are more and more ludicrous policy decisions made to justify that it is actually a disadvantage to be competent. If you have knowledge, and even can demonstrate that the contents of the articles are wrong, Wikipedians would rather stick with a flawed article than admit that someone who understands the subject might be able to contribute. Mediocrity raised to a high art.
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Newsfeed   The ‘Undue Weight’ of Truth on Wikipedia   Sun 12th February 2012, 5:47am
iii   I have quoted some of this fantastic article in co...   Mon 13th February 2012, 2:01am
thekohser   From the excerpted text, it certainly does sound l...   Mon 13th February 2012, 5:07am
HRIP7   His account is MesserKruse. From his talk page: ...   Mon 13th February 2012, 1:38pm
Malik Shabazz   Regretfully, I haven't finished reading Timoth...   Mon 13th February 2012, 6:58pm
thekohser   Short of blowing up the encyclopedia (and I know ...   Mon 13th February 2012, 8:38pm
Malik Shabazz   [quote name='Malik Shabazz' post='297745' date='M...   Mon 13th February 2012, 8:52pm
nableezy   By the way, the entire article has been posted he...   Mon 13th February 2012, 9:44pm
thekohser   [quote name='Malik Shabazz' post='297750' date='M...   Mon 13th February 2012, 9:54pm
iii   [quote name='nableezy' post='297756' date='Mon 13...   Mon 13th February 2012, 9:59pm
lilburne   :[ When has the "spirit of fair use" ...   Mon 13th February 2012, 10:45pm
mbz1   It is actually quite a funny, or should I say ...   Wed 15th February 2012, 2:12am
iii   Short of blowing up the encyclopedia (and I know s...   Mon 13th February 2012, 9:50pm
iii   And then we get idiotic commentary like this. App...   Wed 15th February 2012, 3:57am
mbz1   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wi...   Wed 15th February 2012, 4:23am
iii   Source-scolding of a very ignorant sort seems to b...   Wed 15th February 2012, 12:13pm
mbz1   And for the record Here's a post at Gwen Gale...   Thu 16th February 2012, 12:44am
iii   I was waiting for some drone to make this argument...   Thu 16th February 2012, 3:37am
dogbiscuit   I was waiting for some drone to make this argumen...   Thu 16th February 2012, 9:43am
HRIP7   [quote name='iii' post='297977' date='Thu 16th Fe...   Wed 22nd February 2012, 2:01pm
iii   [quote name='iii' post='297977' date='Thu 16th F...   Wed 22nd February 2012, 3:34pm
mbz1   Keep the pressure on and maybe we can get more ...   Wed 22nd February 2012, 7:35pm
thekohser   Please forgive my ignorance, but could you please...   Wed 22nd February 2012, 7:41pm
SB_Johnny   Keep the pressure on and maybe we can get more p...   Wed 22nd February 2012, 7:45pm
iii   Keep the pressure on and maybe we can get more...   Thu 23rd February 2012, 2:33am
HRIP7   NPR audio and transcript here.   Thu 23rd February 2012, 2:53am
mbz1   And yet another wikipidiot wrote http://en.wikiped...   Thu 16th February 2012, 2:30pm
dogbiscuit   Note the battleground mentality. Surely the idea ...   Thu 16th February 2012, 3:11pm
Fusion   they have got through the [b]rights of passage in...   Fri 17th February 2012, 1:20pm
thekohser   they have got through the [b]rights of passage i...   Fri 17th February 2012, 4:35pm
Fusion   [quote name='Fusion' post='298097' date='Fri 17th...   Fri 17th February 2012, 10:00pm
Mister Die   The fact that Wikipedia to begin with allows peopl...   Fri 17th February 2012, 12:06pm
Emperor   The fact that Wikipedia to begin with allows peop...   Fri 17th February 2012, 12:23pm
SB_Johnny   The fact that Wikipedia to begin with allows peo...   Sun 19th February 2012, 12:13am
Emperor   [quote name='Emperor' post='298089' date='Fri 17t...   Sun 19th February 2012, 3:19am
Jon Awbrey   RE: The ‘Undue Weight’ of Truth on Wikipedia   Sat 18th February 2012, 5:46am
Jon Awbrey   RE: The ‘Undue Weight’ of Truth on Wikipedia   Sun 19th February 2012, 7:51pm
SB_Johnny   Jimbo apparently thinks it's to his advantage ...   Sun 19th February 2012, 10:10pm
lilburne   "The Great Unwashed" but it might also r...   Wed 22nd February 2012, 7:42pm
Michaeldsuarez   One argument that has so far been neglected is th...   Fri 24th February 2012, 4:15am
EricBarbour   Just a minor followup: Here are the schmucks on M...   Sun 4th March 2012, 4:10am
lilburne   Just a minor followup: [url=http://www.metafilte...   Sun 4th March 2012, 10:16am


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