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> Donkey punch, The new face of education
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post Tue 14th February 2012, 2:46pm
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The Donkey punch wars have now spread from English Wikipedia to Wikiquote, Wiktionary, Spanish Wikipedia and God knows what Wikirubbish, with multiple new pages created to prevent the animation from being deleted in Commons.

Commons deletion request

Wikiquote

In Wiktionary, every grammatical form and spelling of the word donkey punch now features a copy of the animation as well ...

Commonists argue that the presence of this animation file created by User:Flyingfeck, on so many "educational" projects, means that it is clearly – you guessed it – educational.

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From the logs of Encylopaedia Dramatica's IRC server (source):
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[2010-10-21 05:37:04] <mr_bean> I need some wikipedia assistance
[2010-10-21 05:37:10] <mr_bean> since I have no TOW account
[2010-10-21 05:37:19] <mr_bean> could someone replace
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Donkey_punch.jpg
[2010-10-21 05:37:20] <mr_bean> with:
[2010-10-21 05:37:35] <mr_bean> http://i.imgur.com/tTSGA.gif
[2010-10-21 05:37:48] <ptime> I will do it
[2010-10-21 05:37:55] <ptime> I will register an account
[2010-10-21 05:38:24] <mr_bean> thanks so much
[2010-10-21 05:38:26] <mr_bean> you da man
[2010-10-21 05:38:32] <ptime> yes
[2010-10-21 05:38:40] <ptime> it will be done in the next twenty minutes
[2010-10-21 05:38:42] <ptime> I am slow at things
[2010-10-21 05:39:00] <mr_bean> it is fine
[2010-10-21 05:39:08] <mr_bean> we will be doing the public a valuable service
[2010-10-21 05:39:08] <mr_bean>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Donkey_p...onkey_punch.jpg
[2010-10-21 05:39:45] <ptime> The user name "Flyingfuck" has been
blacklisted from creation
[2010-10-21 05:39:46] <ptime> dammit
[2010-10-21 05:39:59] <Sheneequa> mr_bean: lolmg
[2010-10-21 05:40:08] <mr_bean> heh
[2010-10-21 05:40:16] <mr_bean> it was originally a still JPG
[2010-10-21 05:41:08] <ptime> wait
[2010-10-21 05:41:15] <ptime> how does I replaced image
[2010-10-21 05:41:22] <mr_bean> oh
[2010-10-21 05:41:25] <ptime> I've never actually done that
[2010-10-21 05:41:27] <mr_bean> you can just upload it
[2010-10-21 05:41:30] <mr_bean> ummmm
[2010-10-21 05:41:38] <mr_bean> gonna get you a link
[2010-10-21 05:41:48] <ptime> cool
[2010-10-21 05:42:00] <mr_bean> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Upload
[2010-10-21 05:42:01] <ptime> so do I replace the image in the articles?
[2010-10-21 05:42:02] <mr_bean> first, upload it
[2010-10-21 05:42:06] <ptime> aight
[2010-10-21 05:42:12] <mr_bean> you can rename it to donkey_punch_animated.gif
[2010-10-21 05:42:13] <mr_bean> right
[2010-10-21 05:42:19] <mr_bean> then you can replace the image in the article
[2010-10-21 05:42:37] <mr_bean>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...nch&action=edit
[2010-10-21 05:42:42] <ptime> hm gotta be a confirmed user
[2010-10-21 05:42:48] <ptime> brb uploading to commons
[2010-10-21 05:42:51] <mr_bean> the best part is that they're
actually asking for it in the talk page
[2010-10-21 05:42:59] <ptime> lol
[2010-10-21 05:43:16] <mr_bean> like, they are dissatisfied with the
still image's inability to convey a donkey punch
[2010-10-21 05:43:18] <ptime> I'll list it as my own work
[2010-10-21 05:43:23] <mr_bean> no problemo
[2010-10-21 05:43:30] <ptime> they're being more rigorous than they
used to be about this shit
[2010-10-21 05:43:35] <mr_bean> yeah
[2010-10-21 05:44:54] <mr_bean> well, if it goes through it would be great
[2010-10-21 05:44:58] <ptime> yeah
[2010-10-21 05:45:04] <ptime> I'm getting it to go now
[2010-10-21 05:45:13] <mr_bean> and of course this would be fine to put on ED
[2010-10-21 05:45:51] <ptime> yes most certainly
[2010-10-21 05:48:59] <ptime> mr_bean: done
[2010-10-21 05:49:07] <mr_bean> sweet
[2010-10-21 05:49:15] <mr_bean> you are a king among men
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post Tue 14th February 2012, 3:13pm
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On 11 February, Cirt (T-C-L-K-R-D) posted a note on the Commons deletion discussion for the childish "donkey punch" animation that had previously graced the WP article. They directed people to the deletion discussion for "santorum" images that they had uploaded ("similar issues are being discussed").

Then Cirt created a Commons category "Donkey punch" and uploaded a number of images of "Artwork related to or inspired by the Donkey punch phenomenon". None of the images, save the animation, appear to depict the act itself. The category links to other wikiprojects such as the article on Wikiquote (which didn't exist until Cirt created it).

After the "santorum" images got deleted, Cirt appeared to see which way things were headed and went into full weasel mode.
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Apology to the community
Recently I've come to realize that some uploads I'd added relating to the donkey punch phenomenon were not directly related and therefore not applicable to the topic or in scope. I'm glad the community voiced its opinion at related deletion discussions with regard to these images, and I've taken that feedback onboard and deleted them as self-requested by uploader (myself). I acknowledge the concerns of the community, and I thank you for the civil and polite way in which these concerns were brought to my attention by the majority of those that raised them.

Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 23:13, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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Your deletion debate closeThank you for your well thought out deletion debate close of Commons:Deletion requests/File:Rick santorum caricature satire made with frothy santorum pic 1.jpg. I respect your decision regarding your evaluation of the input from the community. smile.gif Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

The dashingly handsome John Vandenberg deserves credit for mitigating some of the damage done by Cirt. The "donkey punch" animation no longer graces Simple or Wikiquote, and the santorum images are (mostly) gone.

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post Tue 14th February 2012, 3:24pm
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Looking at Wikitionary, not only did Cirt add the animation to "donkey punch", but they also created "donkeypunch", "donkey-punch", "donkeypunches", "donkey-punched", "donkeypunching", and "donkey punched".

For the background of Cirt and the "santorum" wikibomb, see this WR thread.

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post Tue 14th February 2012, 5:31pm
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 14th February 2012, 3:05pm) *

From the logs of Encylopaedia Dramatica's IRC server (source):
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[2010-10-21 05:42:51] <mr_bean> the best part is that they're
actually asking for it in the talk page
[2010-10-21 05:42:59] <ptime> lol

Actually, that part is quite funny. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 14th February 2012, 3:24pm) *

Looking at Wikitionary, not only did Cirt add the animation to "donkey punch", but they also created "donkeypunch", "donkey-punch", "donkeypunches", "donkey-punched", "donkeypunching", and "donkey punched".

For the background of Cirt and the "santorum" wikibomb, see this WR thread.


Is Cirt an ED mole?
That would be EPIC!!!

If this is the case, I stand in awe.
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post Tue 14th February 2012, 6:51pm
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QUOTE(Vigilant @ Tue 14th February 2012, 6:03pm) *

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 14th February 2012, 3:24pm) *

Looking at Wikitionary, not only did Cirt add the animation to "donkey punch", but they also created "donkeypunch", "donkey-punch", "donkeypunches", "donkey-punched", "donkeypunching", and "donkey punched".

For the background of Cirt and the "santorum" wikibomb, see this WR thread.


Is Cirt an ED mole?
That would be EPIC!!!

If this is the case, I stand in awe.

Ask Alison. I believe they're good friends.
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Don't forget the Wikiquote deletion request by the tireless John Vandenberg.

QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Tue 14th February 2012, 6:51pm) *

Ask Alison. I believe they're good friends.

They certainly agree about a lot of things.
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So, what are the odds on some inclusionist nutter pointing out that there are WR readers following John around and supporting his deletion proposals? There must be some potential for amusement to come out of that.

Also, it's nice to be educated about this Cirt when I was not paying attention when his situation first blew up. Shrigley is really praising DC with faint damns when he compares his actions against AvH with his similar ones against Cirt.
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post Tue 14th February 2012, 11:28pm
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QUOTE(Eppur si muove @ Tue 14th February 2012, 6:14pm) *

So, what are the odds on some inclusionist nutter pointing out that there are WR readers following John around and supporting his deletion proposals?

1:1
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QUOTE(Vigilant @ Tue 14th February 2012, 6:03pm) *
Is Cirt an ED mole?
That would be EPIC!!!

If this is the case, I stand in awe.

Cirt used to be Smee, who used to be Smeelgova. Take a look at Smeelgova's edits.

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Jesus, 932 deleted edits ?

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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Tue 14th February 2012, 9:05am) *

From the logs of Encylopaedia Dramatica's IRC server (source):
QUOTE
[2010-10-21 05:37:04] <mr_bean> I need some wikipedia assistance
[2010-10-21 05:37:10] <mr_bean> since I have no TOW account
[2010-10-21 05:37:19] <mr_bean> could someone replace
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Donkey_punch.jpg
[2010-10-21 05:37:20] <mr_bean> with:
[2010-10-21 05:37:35] <mr_bean> http://i.imgur.com/tTSGA.gif
[2010-10-21 05:37:48] <ptime> I will do it
[2010-10-21 05:37:55] <ptime> I will register an account
[2010-10-21 05:38:24] <mr_bean> thanks so much
[2010-10-21 05:38:26] <mr_bean> you da man
[2010-10-21 05:38:32] <ptime> yes
[2010-10-21 05:38:40] <ptime> it will be done in the next twenty minutes
[2010-10-21 05:38:42] <ptime> I am slow at things
[2010-10-21 05:39:00] <mr_bean> it is fine
[2010-10-21 05:39:08] <mr_bean> we will be doing the public a valuable service
[2010-10-21 05:39:08] <mr_bean>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Donkey_p...onkey_punch.jpg
[2010-10-21 05:39:45] <ptime> The user name "Flyingfuck" has been
blacklisted from creation
[2010-10-21 05:39:46] <ptime> dammit
[2010-10-21 05:39:59] <Sheneequa> mr_bean: lolmg
[2010-10-21 05:40:08] <mr_bean> heh
[2010-10-21 05:40:16] <mr_bean> it was originally a still JPG
[2010-10-21 05:41:08] <ptime> wait
[2010-10-21 05:41:15] <ptime> how does I replaced image
[2010-10-21 05:41:22] <mr_bean> oh
[2010-10-21 05:41:25] <ptime> I've never actually done that
[2010-10-21 05:41:27] <mr_bean> you can just upload it
[2010-10-21 05:41:30] <mr_bean> ummmm
[2010-10-21 05:41:38] <mr_bean> gonna get you a link
[2010-10-21 05:41:48] <ptime> cool
[2010-10-21 05:42:00] <mr_bean> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Upload
[2010-10-21 05:42:01] <ptime> so do I replace the image in the articles?
[2010-10-21 05:42:02] <mr_bean> first, upload it
[2010-10-21 05:42:06] <ptime> aight
[2010-10-21 05:42:12] <mr_bean> you can rename it to donkey_punch_animated.gif
[2010-10-21 05:42:13] <mr_bean> right
[2010-10-21 05:42:19] <mr_bean> then you can replace the image in the article
[2010-10-21 05:42:37] <mr_bean>
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...nch&action=edit
[2010-10-21 05:42:42] <ptime> hm gotta be a confirmed user
[2010-10-21 05:42:48] <ptime> brb uploading to commons
[2010-10-21 05:42:51] <mr_bean> the best part is that they're
actually asking for it in the talk page
[2010-10-21 05:42:59] <ptime> lol
[2010-10-21 05:43:16] <mr_bean> like, they are dissatisfied with the
still image's inability to convey a donkey punch
[2010-10-21 05:43:18] <ptime> I'll list it as my own work
[2010-10-21 05:43:23] <mr_bean> no problemo
[2010-10-21 05:43:30] <ptime> they're being more rigorous than they
used to be about this shit
[2010-10-21 05:43:35] <mr_bean> yeah
[2010-10-21 05:44:54] <mr_bean> well, if it goes through it would be great
[2010-10-21 05:44:58] <ptime> yeah
[2010-10-21 05:45:04] <ptime> I'm getting it to go now
[2010-10-21 05:45:13] <mr_bean> and of course this would be fine to put on ED
[2010-10-21 05:45:51] <ptime> yes most certainly
[2010-10-21 05:48:59] <ptime> mr_bean: done
[2010-10-21 05:49:07] <mr_bean> sweet
[2010-10-21 05:49:15] <mr_bean> you are a king among men



Wait! Hey! Everyone, just chill out.

Jimbo's already aware of it.

(breathing a gargantuan sigh of relief, though a little confused why this awareness necessitated the removal of that notification)
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QUOTE(radek @ Wed 15th February 2012, 7:49am) *

Wait! Hey! Everyone, just chill out.

Jimbo's already aware of it.

(breathing a gargantuan sigh of relief, though a little confused why this awareness necessitated the removal of that notification)


I suspect that Jimbo just looked at the name of the page and assumed he was being told about the existence of the Wikipedia article or the video. He probably didn't check the thread here to see the evidence of Cirt trolling across multiple projects or the ED link. They don't call him Dumbo for nothing.

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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Tue 14th February 2012, 11:28pm) *

QUOTE(Eppur si muove @ Tue 14th February 2012, 6:14pm) *

So, what are the odds on some inclusionist nutter pointing out that there are WR readers following John around and supporting his deletion proposals?

1:1

I'd say it is an absolute certainty!

QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Wed 15th February 2012, 1:03am) *

Maybe he has done new page patrol and put up hundreds of delete and PROD tags?
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QUOTE(Eppur si muove @ Wed 15th February 2012, 4:28am) *

QUOTE(radek @ Wed 15th February 2012, 7:49am) *

Wait! Hey! Everyone, just chill out.

Jimbo's already aware of it.

(breathing a gargantuan sigh of relief, though a little confused why this awareness necessitated the removal of that notification)


I suspect that Jimbo just looked at the name of the page and assumed he was being told about the existence of the Wikipedia article or the video. He probably didn't check the thread here to see the evidence of Cirt trolling across multiple projects or the ED link. They don't call him Dumbo for nothing.


So, take it the next step. Ask Jimbo his opinion on the evidence that Cirt is trolling across multiple Wikimedia projects at the request of ED! You have to keep firing away with the guy, especially when the rug under which he sweeps the dirt is starting to bulge with lumps.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 15th February 2012, 12:46pm) *

So, take it the next step. Ask Jimbo his opinion on the evidence that Cirt is trolling across multiple Wikimedia projects at the request of ED! You have to keep firing away with the guy, especially when the rug under which he sweeps the dirt is starting to bulge with lumps.


Doesn't work, in my experience. Once you are at the point where the lie or deception is absolutely obvious to everyone, requiring that every part of the lie is visible in a single place, laid out carefully and using syllogisms if necessary, leaving not even the slightest room for doubt or evasion, without any possibility of wriggling out of it – once you are there, I say, then Jimbo will simply delete it, or go into ‘radio silence’, or just ignore it and turn to something else. You will never catch him like that.

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QUOTE(radek @ Wed 15th February 2012, 7:49am) *
Wait! Hey! Everyone, just chill out.

Jimbo's already aware of it.

(breathing a gargantuan sigh of relief, though a little confused why this awareness necessitated the removal of that notification)

Yep, Jimbo's on it - there should be a hurricane of activity soon that will set everything right! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Wed 15th February 2012, 8:33am) *

QUOTE(radek @ Wed 15th February 2012, 7:49am) *
Wait! Hey! Everyone, just chill out.

Jimbo's already aware of it.

(breathing a gargantuan sigh of relief, though a little confused why this awareness necessitated the removal of that notification)

Yep, Jimbo's on it - there should be a hurricane of activity soon that will set everything right! laugh.gif


Someone oughta ask Sue Gardner if the presence... wait, the double presence (for some reason posting it once wasn't enough) of this image on Jimbo's talk page is part of Wikipedia's drive to attract more female editors.

Ok, that would be trolling, but there's a serious point in there - how can they talk all this stuff about attracting more female editors and at the same time tolerate and enable crap like this?
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You would have thought someone would have done this by now...

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Just for future reference, the animation was kept, by the editor who opined just a little while ago on Jimbo's talk page:
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When I masturbate in public, I don't really feel any different than when I do it in private; can you possibly tell us why when you masturbate in public, it hurts? [[User:Russavia|Y u no be Russavia]] <sup>[[User talk:Russavia|ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)]]</sup> 19:42, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Sounds like content management of this charitable educational project is in safe hands, then.
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