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post Wed 15th February 2012, 2:49pm
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<edit> looks like a hoax, see tarantino's post below

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewfor...EU3RuX2RoREE6MA

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Looks like the survey is being run by Steven Walling and "a Community Health Task Force volunteer who wishes to remain anonymous".

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related thread; The "holy shit" slide on editor retention, Sue Gardner on Wikipedia's death spiral

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post Wed 15th February 2012, 5:23pm
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The survey wasn't approved by Walling or the WMF, and it was run by long-term puppetmaster Nrcprm2026.

00:13, 14 February 2012 Philippe (WMF) (talk | contribs) deleted "User:James Salsman/Inactive administrators survey" ‎ (OFFICE action. Per WMF Legal team.)
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post Wed 15th February 2012, 5:37pm
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Wed 15th February 2012, 5:23pm) *
The survey wasn't approved by Walling or the WMF, and it was run by long-term puppetmaster Nrcprm2026.

00:13, 14 February 2012 Philippe (WMF) (talk | contribs) deleted "User:James Salsman/Inactive administrators survey" ‎ (OFFICE action. Per WMF Legal team.)

laugh.gif - that's a funny hoax, someone went through a lot of effort to make it - thanks tarantino. Nrcprm2026 has been socking for over 5 years it look like. I wondered of he's a disgruntled ex-administrator.

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post Wed 15th February 2012, 8:05pm
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QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Wed 15th February 2012, 5:37pm) *

QUOTE(tarantino @ Wed 15th February 2012, 5:23pm) *
The survey wasn't approved by Walling or the WMF, and it was run by long-term puppetmaster Nrcprm2026.

00:13, 14 February 2012 Philippe (WMF) (talk | contribs) deleted "User:James Salsman/Inactive administrators survey" ‎ (OFFICE action. Per WMF Legal team.)

laugh.gif - that's a funny hoax, someone went through a lot of effort to make it - thanks tarantino. Nrcprm2026 has been socking for over 5 years it look like. I wondered of he's a disgruntled ex-administrator.


Though he's been banned for years on enwp, he just ignores it. For whatever reason, he takes wikimedia and himself seriously and wasn't intending for this to be a hoax.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cas...nia_Chapter.pdf
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...t=James+Salsman

Also, if you see an IP from the SF Bay area on the noticeboards or reference desk, chances are it's him.
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post Tue 21st February 2012, 1:59am
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Also, if you see an IP from the SF Bay area on the noticeboards or reference desk, chances are it's him.


Here he is again, haunting the noticeboards.
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post Wed 22nd February 2012, 6:05pm
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Mon 20th February 2012, 6:59pm) *

QUOTE(tarantino @ Wed 15th February 2012, 8:05pm) *

Also, if you see an IP from the SF Bay area on the noticeboards or reference desk, chances are it's him.


Here he is again, haunting the noticeboards.

That's not me. I haven't been in the Bay Area since last September, although I probably will return pretty soon. Then off to an undisclosed location and a fancy proxy configuration for the mother of all fresh starts.

Eric, please be patient. I got another valid survey response just this morning so I'm holding it open until at least the weekend before I write up the data.

So far over a dozen formerly inactive admins have returned to editing enwiki after receiving the survey; some appear to be very active: ThaddeusB, C12H22O11, CBDunkerson, Cholmes75, Cobaltbluetony, EWS23, Enochlau, Firsfron, Guettarda, Hall_Monitor, James086, ReyBrujo, RobyWayne. This is a far better result than anyone had hoped.

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P.S. Ask a serial sockpuppeter who believes improving the encyclopedia is more important than obeying its rules anything.
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QUOTE(jsalsman @ Wed 22nd February 2012, 1:05pm) *
P.S. Ask a serial sockpuppeter who believes improving the encyclopedia is more important than obeying its rules anything.


What's with the cold fusion obsession?
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post Fri 24th February 2012, 6:48pm
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QUOTE(iii @ Fri 24th February 2012, 5:07am) *
What's with the cold fusion obsession?


My arch-nemesis fellow serial sockpuppeteer Science Apologist and a handful of other less transgressive editors are constantly trying to remove any sources which suggest that cold fusion was anything other than a pseudoscientific scam. The problem is that there is plenty of peer reviewed secondary evidence that it's not a scam, just really hard to get right. Very few experimenters realized that they were losing hydrogen through their cathode power wiring.

I think it's a great article to work on because the hegemony is actively trying to suppress what has basically emerged as the dominant point of view in the peer reviewed literature for a decade now, because of the psychological association of the idea with scientific negligence. As the excuses get flimsier and flimsier over the years, it is great practice for spotting degenerate editing patterns. Arbcom has cast their lot in with the wrong side, and about five people have been banned for trying to accurately represent the peer reviewed secondary literature. No other article has come close to that situation, so of course I'm fascinated by the dynamics there.

I'm very excited about the Defkalion tests in Athens today. Supposedly the Greek government is involved in the validation, so win, lose, or draw it should hit the press hard enough that they'll probably let NASA's recent work back in to the article.
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QUOTE(jsalsman @ Fri 24th February 2012, 10:48am) *

I think it's a great article to work on because the hegemony is actively trying to suppress what has basically emerged as the dominant point of view in the peer reviewed literature for a decade now, because of the psychological association of the idea with scientific negligence.

And as I have already found, Wikipedia attracts some of the most incivil, arrogant scientists in the world.

People like Connolley and Raymond Arritt are responsible for this state of affairs--
pigheaded, intractable, abusive, manipulative and antisocial. They do this because Wikipedia facilitates
it, and disses actual expertise. If you want WP to handle cold fusion, or any other controversial
scientific area, neutrally---fix Wikipedia's culture first, not the bloody articles.

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TungstenCarbide   Inactive Wikipedia administrator survey hoax   Wed 15th February 2012, 2:49pm
TungstenCarbide   Timeline of an inactive admin; 1- edits Wikipedia ...   Wed 15th February 2012, 3:48pm
No one of consequence   5- looks around and sees despicable worms of all ...   Wed 15th February 2012, 4:17pm
everyking   5- looks around and sees despicable worms of all...   Wed 15th February 2012, 4:44pm
No one of consequence   I suppose that does sound better than "despi...   Wed 15th February 2012, 4:48pm
TungstenCarbide   That's not me. I haven't been in the Bay A...   Wed 22nd February 2012, 6:19pm
jsalsman   Did you intentionally try to mislead people with y...   Wed 22nd February 2012, 8:26pm
SB_Johnny   So far over a dozen formerly inactive admins have...   Wed 22nd February 2012, 7:37pm
EricBarbour   So far over a dozen formerly inactive admins have...   Wed 22nd February 2012, 11:57pm
tarantino   [quote name='tarantino' post='298471' date='Mon 2...   Thu 23rd February 2012, 4:09am
jsalsman   My apologies, and welcome to The Review. Don...   Fri 24th February 2012, 7:51am
iii   P.S. Ask a serial sockpuppeter who believes improv...   Fri 24th February 2012, 12:07pm
jsalsman   What's with the cold fusion obsession? My ar...   Fri 24th February 2012, 6:48pm
iii   [quote name='iii' post='299004' date='Fri 24th Fe...   Fri 24th February 2012, 11:22pm
Fusion   P.S. Ask a serial sockpuppeter who believes impro...   Fri 24th February 2012, 1:02pm
EricBarbour   I will email Salsman and ask him if he would talk ...   Wed 15th February 2012, 9:15pm
TungstenCarbide   In case you didn't know, [url=http://talknicer...   Wed 15th February 2012, 9:33pm
Kelly Martin   I will email Salsman and ask him if he would talk...   Wed 15th February 2012, 9:52pm
EricBarbour   See also this G+ thread. That bears repeating her...   Wed 15th February 2012, 10:01pm
EricBarbour   Yes, and you should read the Nrcprm2026 SPI. This ...   Wed 15th February 2012, 9:41pm
Kelly Martin   It should also be noted that Pat Gunn is Improv, o...   Wed 15th February 2012, 10:08pm
EricBarbour   Salsman's been talking about WMF people on his...   Wed 15th February 2012, 10:26pm
tarantino   Now in addition to the accounts he used to send 30...   Thu 16th February 2012, 9:01pm
HRIP7   Now in addition to the accounts he used to send 3...   Thu 16th February 2012, 11:37pm
iii   I don't know what's wrong with Mr. Salsman...   Fri 17th February 2012, 12:12am
EricBarbour   I don't know what's wrong with Mr. Salsma...   Fri 17th February 2012, 12:47am
TungstenCarbide   I don't know what's wrong with Mr. Salsm...   Fri 17th February 2012, 1:00am
iii   a) I don't get that impression from looking at...   Fri 17th February 2012, 2:01am
Kelly Martin   The behavior of WMF staff and sundry in this affai...   Fri 17th February 2012, 1:30am
iii   The behavior of WMF staff and sundry in this affa...   Fri 17th February 2012, 2:05am
tarantino   [quote name='Kelly Martin' post='298065' date='Th...   Fri 17th February 2012, 4:15am
EricBarbour   I'm beginning to think iii is right--he hasn...   Tue 21st February 2012, 4:24am
Kelly Martin   Well, technically I'm not an inactive admin be...   Wed 22nd February 2012, 8:09pm


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