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post Sat 25th February 2012, 10:58pm
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John Vandenberg has kindly tried to intervene in the case of the links to my website being banned on Wikipedia.
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What happened to this page on the old Logic Museum?
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post Sun 26th February 2012, 2:11am
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post Sun 26th February 2012, 2:32am
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John Vandenberg has kindly tried to intervene in the case of the links to my website being banned on Wikipedia.
Blacklist entry removed.
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post Sun 26th February 2012, 9:16am
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John Vandenberg has kindly tried to intervene in the case of the links to my website being banned on Wikipedia.
Blacklist entry removed.
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Thanks everyone.

However, if we look at the basic principles involved here, it is clear that nothing has really been resolved. The underlying problem is that you have people in charge of running an encyclopedia who have no idea how to run an encyclopedia. The Logic Museum was a prime candidate for outbound linking. It has no competitors, it has useful and encyclopedic content, etc etc. If you look at the spam and external link policies you nothing that would justify a blacklist. Yet it took the efforts of John and others for several days, against fierce resistance from two powerful administrators, before sense and logic prevailed.

And you still have Katz running around, deleting links to the Montreal Review and other respectable publications. Why has he not been called to account?

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I do hope that the editors who've argued so passionately in favour of removal will demonstrate an equally passionate commitment to remove any instances where the banned user again evades his ban, since he has repeatedly demonstrated that he will continue to do so. I hope that they are not simply planning on walking away, otherwise the site will have to be returned to the list. --Ckatzchatspy 20:02, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


And, with the agreement of John Vandenberg, a special page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wik...logicmuseum.com has been created. This means that if some evil user puts in a link, say, to this translation http://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/Authors/Bu...iora/Liber_1/Q7 of Jean Buridan's questions on the Prior Analytics, a great alarm bell will go off, and Wikipedians will scrurry around trying to prevent this danger to the wiki.

Perhaps a short article for the Times Higher Education Supplement, or the Chronicle of Higher Education?

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post Sun 26th February 2012, 10:38am
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sun 26th February 2012, 9:16am) *
And, with the agreement of John Vandenberg, a special page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wik...logicmuseum.com has been created. This means that if some evil user puts in a link, say, to this translation http://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/Authors/Bu...iora/Liber_1/Q7 of Jean Buridan's questions on the Prior Analytics, a great alarm bell will go off, and Wikipedians will scrurry around trying to prevent this danger to the wiki.

Perhaps a short article for the Times Higher Education Supplement, or the Chronicle of Higher Education?

It was not with my agreement, or even my knowledge. blink.gif It was created on the 17th, probably soon after I first requested the removal of the entry from the spam blacklist.
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post Sun 26th February 2012, 10:49am
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It was not with my agreement, or even my knowledge. blink.gif It was created on the 17th, probably soon after I first requested the removal of the entry from the spam blacklist.


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I do hope that the editors who've argued so passionately in favour of removal will demonstrate an equally passionate commitment to remove any instances where the banned user again evades his ban, since he has repeatedly demonstrated that he will continue to do so. I hope that they are not simply planning on walking away, otherwise the site will have to be returned to the list. --Ckatzchatspy 20:02, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I did activate the other line of defense. That would at least give us an alert. --Dirk Beetstra T C 20:09, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Beetstra. How does XLinkBot work; where can I find these alerts? (I've added a few links to logicmuseum.com, so hopefully there will be a few alerts generated) John Vandenberg (chat) 23:06, 25 February 2012 (UTC)



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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sun 26th February 2012, 10:49am) *

QUOTE(jayvdb @ Sun 26th February 2012, 10:38am) *

It was not with my agreement, or even my knowledge. blink.gif It was created on the 17th, probably soon after I first requested the removal of the entry from the spam blacklist.


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I do hope that the editors who've argued so passionately in favour of removal will demonstrate an equally passionate commitment to remove any instances where the banned user again evades his ban, since he has repeatedly demonstrated that he will continue to do so. I hope that they are not simply planning on walking away, otherwise the site will have to be returned to the list. --Ckatzchatspy 20:02, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I did activate the other line of defense. That would at least give us an alert. --Dirk Beetstra T C 20:09, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Beetstra. How does XLinkBot work; where can I find these alerts? (I've added a few links to logicmuseum.com, so hopefully there will be a few alerts generated) John Vandenberg (chat) 23:06, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh ye of little good faith tongue.gif I added those links before I knew they were going to be logged somewhere. I've seen XLinkBot a few times, but never had a reason to understand how it works, or how to configure it. It doesn't just create alerts; it also reverts, sometimes. Hopefully it will play nice and just log any related activity. I suspect that the bot will be less problematic as it is programmed to not edit-war. Time will tell...
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