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| Peter Damian |
 Sat 18th February 2012, 4:06pm
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The Maverick Philosopher today on philosophy in Wikipedia http://maverickphilosopher.typepad.com/mav...-wikipedia.html
QUOTE "I won't continue through the passage. It is bad throughout. What I hated about teaching was having to wade through garbage like this. How does one explain to an incompetent writer what competent writing is?" |
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| Emperor |
Sat 18th February 2012, 5:00pm
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Nice blog entry.
I skimmed the Wikipedia article but I think it had something to do with Charmed and Battlestar Galactica. |
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| Zoloft |
Sat 18th February 2012, 5:46pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sat 18th February 2012, 8:06am)  The Maverick Philosopher today on philosophy in Wikipedia http://maverickphilosopher.typepad.com/mav...-wikipedia.html QUOTE "I won't continue through the passage. It is bad throughout. What I hated about teaching was having to wade through garbage like this. How does one explain to an incompetent writer what competent writing is?" As a sometimes paid editor, and one who has taught writing and composition, first you must have their attention. Then you take a pencil to one of their sentences and bring into it life and vigor. That usually provides enough motivation. |
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| TungstenCarbide |
Sat 18th February 2012, 5:50pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sat 18th February 2012, 4:06pm) The Maverick Philosopher today on philosophy in Wikipedia http://maverickphilosopher.typepad.com/mav...-wikipedia.html QUOTE "I won't continue through the passage. It is bad throughout. What I hated about teaching was having to wade through garbage like this. How does one explain to an incompetent writer what competent writing is?" I don't know what makes writing good or bad, I just know what I like. The quoted Wikipedia entry made my eyes glaze over. |
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| Peter Damian |
Sat 18th February 2012, 6:21pm
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I have as much free time as a Wikipedia admin! Group: Regulars Posts: 4,400 Joined: Tue 18th Dec 2007, 9:25pm Member No.: 4,212 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sat 18th February 2012, 5:50pm) QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sat 18th February 2012, 4:06pm) The Maverick Philosopher today on philosophy in Wikipedia http://maverickphilosopher.typepad.com/mav...-wikipedia.html QUOTE "I won't continue through the passage. It is bad throughout. What I hated about teaching was having to wade through garbage like this. How does one explain to an incompetent writer what competent writing is?" I don't know what makes writing good or bad, I just know what I like. The quoted Wikipedia entry made my eyes glaze over. He didn't say bad, he said 'incompetent'. |
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| It's the blimp, Frank |
Sat 18th February 2012, 7:13pm
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QUOTE(Zoloft @ Sat 18th February 2012, 5:46pm) As a sometimes paid editor, and one who has taught writing and composition, first you must have their attention. Then you take a pencil to one of their sentences and bring into it life and vigor. That usually provides enough motivation. Except at Wikipedia, it provides motivation for the offending editor to gather his allies for massive retaliation. |
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| EricBarbour |
Sat 18th February 2012, 7:17pm
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This is what you need, more actual philosophers looking at Wikipedia articles about philosophy closely,
and realizing they are incoherent. And talking about it. Logic and epistemology, among other areas, are places where bad writing is not merely bad---it makes the whole endeavour pointless. It shows where Wikipedia falls down badly. When it's spewing statistics or the names of frigging Codename: Kids Next Door episodes, crowdsourcing works. Anything more subtle or complex is a major issue with the "magic" of crowdsourcing. For some things, you must have an expert. Wikipedia will go to its digital grave, refusing to admit that. |
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