Racism, On Wikipedia Options

[Emperor]

Racism

They seem to have some idea what the definition is but not in the first lines of the article.

Racism is the belief that inherent different traits in human racial groups justify discrimination. In the modern English language, the term "racism" is used predominantly as a pejorative epithet. It is applied especially to the practice or advocacy of racial discrimination of a pernicious nature (i.e. which harms particular groups of people), and which is often justified by recourse to racial stereotyping or pseudo-science. Racism is popularly associated with various activities that are illegal or commonly considered harmful, such as extremism, hatred, xenophobia, (malignant or forced) exploitation, separatism, racial supremacy, mass murder (for the purpose of genocide), genocide denial, vigilantism (hate crimes, terrorism), etc.

Chock full of garbled English and debatable definitions (that differ from Merriam-Webster and Dictionary.com).

Also note the gigantic Bank of America banner in the middle of the article.

[Wikifan]

You appear to have leapt to a conclusion based not on historical knowledge but on your gut reactions to antisemitic rhetoric. In the '30s, Wall Street financiers liked Hitler not because of their opinions one way or another about his demagoguery, but because the German economy began to show signs of revival after he rose to power. Wall Street was also financing Japanese empire-building during this time period, over the objections of the U.S. government.

so wall street financiers=jews? LF and other noi trolls are notorious for their rabid antisemitism and fascination with jewish conspiracies. when anyone engages in that kind of verbal diarrhea they lose all credibility.

[Ego Trippin' (Part Two)]

You appear to have leapt to a conclusion based not on historical knowledge but on your gut reactions to antisemitic rhetoric. In the '30s, Wall Street financiers liked Hitler not because of their opinions one way or another about his demagoguery, but because the German economy began to show signs of revival after he rose to power. Wall Street was also financing Japanese empire-building during this time period, over the objections of the U.S. government.

so wall street financiers=jews? LF and other noi trolls are notorious for their rabid antisemitism and fascination with jewish conspiracies. when anyone engages in that kind of verbal diarrhea they lose all credibility.

Not all of them were Jews, of course, but some were. The fundamentally antisemitic premise adopted by the NOI, apparently, is that Jews controlled all of international banking in the 1930s and were able to use that control for their own sinister purposes. We can reject that premise without denying, as I think you did, that some American Jews were involved in financing Nazi Germany. The same goes for Japan, although naturally most people wouldn't find Jewish involvement with that curious, because the Japanese weren't behind the genocide of millions of Jews.

I'm not saying that the NOI has any credibility, but I am saying that there was a kernel of truth to the sentence you bolded. That sentence obviously twisted the truth for its own antisemitic ends.

These are the kinds of things you learn in college. Speaking of which, if memory serves, you're about 17, right? How's your college application process going?

Oh the "my education is bigger than your education" argument. Always persuasive.

You're right; my first three sentences stood on their own, and that fourth was unnecessarily nasty. My shitty mood brought out my mean streak. I apologize for the dig, Wikifan.

This post has been edited by Ego Trippin' (Part Two): Fri 24th February 2012, 5:05am

[Fusion]

Not all of them were Jews, of course, but some were.

This reminds me very of the sort of language there was in the USSR under Stalin. The main enemy of the USSR was the capitalists, since obviously the great majorty of the workers, those who had not been anyway brainwashed, supported the USSR. Many of the capitalists were Jews, so in fact this was a Jewish conspiracy organised by the Jewish Trotsky. One of his biggest hate figures was Montagu Norman (T-H-L-K-D), Governor of the Bank of England. I was surprised recently to discover that he was not Jewish.

Anyway, I am disturbed to find Stalinism alive and well and living here.