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[Proabivouac]

Why to remove my talk page access.

So you can't argue with them. That's the way sysops play it.

[barney]

On the other hand is ability to edit wikipedia is a privilege at all?

Would it be a privilege if you allowed me to clean your house, fix your plumbing or retile your floor? The only way it might be a privilege is if I were stealing vicodin from your medicine cabinet; e.g. paid editing or, more commonly, the the fulfillment of a psychological addiction.

Don't you think Wikipedia is a good experience for people learning to write informative articles? I mean, it can be rough at times for sure, but its good experience for writing in a competitive or "hostile" environment. I think a lot fo people like writing their because it is good experience for wiriting for money.

[Proabivouac]

Don't you think Wikipedia is a good experience for people learning to write informative articles? I mean, it can be rough at times for sure, but its good experience for writing in a competitive or "hostile" environment. I think a lot fo people like writing their because it is good experience for wiriting for money.

Not at all; there's no great analog to Wikipedia's "competitive/hostile" writing environment except other wikis. WR may be a hostile environment, but it's rare that you'll be stuck playing push me-pull you with your own posts. If you're a single author of something no one cares to dispute (e.g. Giano,) well, writing is good practice for writing, but the only difference there is you learn Wiki markup instead of Open Office, Word, or whatever else you'd be using. I could see software-driven collaborative authorship becoming more popular in academia, and frankly the way coauthored papers work now, it'd probabaly be an improvement, but as it is it's still basically just you and the typewriter. Wikipedia is more a distraction from that than it is training for it.

This post has been edited by Proabivouac: Sat 17th March 2012, 7:07am

[mbz1]

On the other hand is ability to edit wikipedia is a privilege at all?

Would it be a privilege if you allowed me to clean your house, fix your plumbing or retile your floor? The only way it might be a privilege is if I were stealing vicodin from your medicine cabinet; e.g. paid editing or, more commonly, the the fulfillment of a psychological addiction.

Don't you think Wikipedia is a good experience for people learning to write informative articles? I mean, it can be rough at times for sure, but its good experience for writing in a competitive or "hostile" environment. I think a lot fo people like writing their because it is good experience for wiriting for money.

"Hostile environment" is never good for anything in my opinion. I have a few publications in academic journals. Writing for them was a pleasure. I tried to write one of the things for wikipedia, but it was deleted, they called it "an original research". Then, when my "original research" was published in an academic journal, I did not even tried to write about this on wikipedia again because I knew it would be deleted because of conflict of interest.
Besides as somebody said, no encyclopedic article could be written at a principal of reaching a consensus between ignorant and educated.

This post has been edited by mbz1: Sat 17th March 2012, 4:28pm

[mbz1]

Why to remove my talk page access.

So you can't argue with them. That's the way sysops play it.

I guess I was arguing. I was polity asking for an exact difference of an alleged harassment, but I have never been provided with one.
I repeated many times already that I am absolutely fine with being blocked, banned, whatever.
The only thing that is hard for me to bear is being lied about.

[Deskana]

I have a few publications in academic journals. Writing for them was a pleasure.

I'd love to know what kind of journals you're writing in, because so far I've not found my experiences with journals to be at all pleasurable.

[mbz1]

I have a few publications in academic journals. Writing for them was a pleasure.

I'd love to know what kind of journals you're writing in, because so far I've not found my experiences with journals to be at all pleasurable.

For example I wrote 4 articles for Weather - a journal of Royal Meteorological Society. The editors there are really friendly, the articles are reviewed promptly and I could see reviewers comments online. They even fix my English.

This post has been edited by mbz1: Mon 19th March 2012, 12:24am