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Wikitaka
post Sun 25th March 2012, 10:39am
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For no reason, Xavexgoem protected the Muhammad RFC "to avoid SPIs", which is not a valid reason for semi-protection.

What else does Xavexgoem have on his record?
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Mister Die
post Mon 26th March 2012, 3:14am
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To me the problems arise when people aren't putting the photo in because it's a portrayal of Muhammad, but because they want to show how "uncensored" Wikipedia is. It's a bit like how so many articles on sexual issues have unnecessarily graphic photographs, often more than one. Ditto with some medical articles.

In these cases it isn't about encyclopedic quality (not like Wikipedia actually has that), but demonstrating how "free" Wikipedia is to annoy others.
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post Mon 26th March 2012, 8:20am
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QUOTE(Mister Die @ Mon 26th March 2012, 4:14am) *

To me the problems arise when people aren't putting the photo in because it's a portrayal of Muhammad, but because they want to show how "uncensored" Wikipedia is. It's a bit like how so many articles on sexual issues have unnecessarily graphic photographs, often more than one. Ditto with some medical articles.

In these cases it isn't about encyclopedic quality (not like Wikipedia actually has that), but demonstrating how "free" Wikipedia is to annoy others.

Quite. That's why you get people who can't tell the difference between sunnis and shiites, and who would interpret a reference to the Quran's light verse to mean that there must be a section with limericks in it, earnestly and passionately contributing to the debate.
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post Mon 26th March 2012, 9:46am
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QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Mon 26th March 2012, 9:20am) *

QUOTE(Mister Die @ Mon 26th March 2012, 4:14am) *

To me the problems arise when people aren't putting the photo in because it's a portrayal of Muhammad, but because they want to show how "uncensored" Wikipedia is. It's a bit like how so many articles on sexual issues have unnecessarily graphic photographs, often more than one. Ditto with some medical articles.

In these cases it isn't about encyclopedic quality (not like Wikipedia actually has that), but demonstrating how "free" Wikipedia is to annoy others.

Quite. That's why you get people who can't tell the difference between sunnis and shiites, and who would interpret a reference to the Quran's light verse to mean that there must be a section with limericks in it, earnestly and passionately contributing to the debate.


During which time they get educated by those who do know what they're talking about. And there is one reason why Wikipedia can be a good thing ™.
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QUOTE(Web Fred @ Mon 26th March 2012, 10:46am) *

QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Mon 26th March 2012, 9:20am) *

QUOTE(Mister Die @ Mon 26th March 2012, 4:14am) *

To me the problems arise when people aren't putting the photo in because it's a portrayal of Muhammad, but because they want to show how "uncensored" Wikipedia is. It's a bit like how so many articles on sexual issues have unnecessarily graphic photographs, often more than one. Ditto with some medical articles.

In these cases it isn't about encyclopedic quality (not like Wikipedia actually has that), but demonstrating how "free" Wikipedia is to annoy others.

Quite. That's why you get people who can't tell the difference between sunnis and shiites, and who would interpret a reference to the Quran's light verse to mean that there must be a section with limericks in it, earnestly and passionately contributing to the debate.


During which time they get educated by those who do know what they're talking about. And there is one reason why Wikipedia can be a good thing ™.

That can sometimes happen. smile.gif
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Why not use the Muhammad cartoon? Remember, Wikipedia is not censored.
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QUOTE(Wikitaka @ Thu 29th March 2012, 10:16am) *

Why not use the Muhammad cartoon? Remember, Wikipedia is not censored.


Because it's copyrighted?

I'm not sure deliberately causing offence is ideal criteria for Fair Use.
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Wikitaka   Commons-hosted Muhammad Images   Sun 25th March 2012, 10:39am
Web Fred   For no reason, Xavexgoem [url=http://en.wikipedia...   Sun 25th March 2012, 11:18am
Tarc   For no reason, Xavexgoem protected the Muhammad R...   Sun 25th March 2012, 1:01pm
Web Fred   [quote name='Wikitaka' post='303524' date='Sun 25...   Sun 25th March 2012, 1:14pm
Tarc   [quote name='Tarc' post='303529' date='Sun 25th M...   Sun 25th March 2012, 1:26pm
Web Fred   The RfC is going pretty much as I expected it to...   Sun 25th March 2012, 1:33pm
GlassBeadGame   The RfC is going pretty much as I expected it t...   Sun 25th March 2012, 2:16pm
Wikitaka   What concerns me most is that so many users want W...   Sun 25th March 2012, 6:54pm
Web Fred   What concerns me most is that so many users want ...   Sun 25th March 2012, 6:58pm
Tarc   The 500,000 strong petition,with a "Wikimani...   Sun 25th March 2012, 7:22pm
Somey   [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='303536' date='Su...   Sun 25th March 2012, 7:36pm
GlassBeadGame   The 500,000 strong petition,with a "Wikiman...   Sun 25th March 2012, 7:58pm
Proabivouac   [quote name='Tarc' post='303567' date='Sun 25th M...   Sun 25th March 2012, 8:13pm
Tarc   [quote name='Tarc' post='303567' date='Sun 25th M...   Sun 25th March 2012, 8:55pm
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='Tarc' post='303567' date='Sun 25th ...   Sun 25th March 2012, 9:10pm
Tarc   [quote name='Tarc' post='303587' date='Sun 25th M...   Sun 25th March 2012, 9:23pm
GlassBeadGame   and their request was denied. Yes, by a couple...   Sun 25th March 2012, 9:29pm
Selina   User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 96 #After SOPA, Muha...   Sun 25th March 2012, 9:12pm
Selina   Caling people racist in a discussion without any k...   Sun 25th March 2012, 9:47pm
Selina   (Mod note: Moved the steadily rolling GBGvTarc tra...   Sun 25th March 2012, 10:43pm
Tarc   To me the problems arise when people aren't p...   Mon 26th March 2012, 6:02am
Mister Die   Why not use the Muhammad cartoon? Remember, Wikip...   Thu 29th March 2012, 9:27am
Fusion   "Not censored" doesn't mean "a...   Thu 29th March 2012, 7:46pm
Web Fred   "Not censored" doesn't mean ...   Thu 29th March 2012, 9:11pm
Mister Die   I don't know about you, but I'm interested...   Fri 30th March 2012, 12:06am
Fusion   So the concept that we, as human beings, generall...   Sat 31st March 2012, 8:13pm
Web Fred   [quote name='Web Fred' post='303805' date='Thu 29...   Sat 31st March 2012, 9:12pm
Fusion   It doesn't really matter what some people...   Sun 1st April 2012, 2:08pm
Web Fred   It doesn't really matter what some people...   Sun 1st April 2012, 2:31pm
Wikitaka   Why not use the Muhammad cartoon? Remember, Wiki...   Thu 29th March 2012, 12:17pm
Tarc   The "images are included to purposefully offe...   Thu 29th March 2012, 9:32pm
Web Fred   The "images are included to purposefully off...   Thu 29th March 2012, 9:38pm
Ottava   I think this is similar to Wikipedia hosting a pic...   Mon 2nd April 2012, 2:27pm
jsalsman   I used to be for including images until I found ou...   Thu 5th April 2012, 2:02am
Proabivouac   I used to be for including images until I found o...   Thu 5th April 2012, 5:13am
Web Fred   I used to be for including images until I found o...   Thu 5th April 2012, 7:37am
Fusion   By all accounts the real Jesus was black. That i...   Thu 5th April 2012, 11:31am
Web Fred   By all accounts the real Jesus was black. That ...   Thu 5th April 2012, 11:46am
Bottled_Spider   I used to be for including images until I found ou...   Thu 5th April 2012, 10:36am
Detective   the image of him in Western society and culture s...   Thu 5th April 2012, 8:49pm
jsalsman   You mean you actually thought there could be conte...   Sat 7th April 2012, 1:18am
Bottled_Spider   You mean you actually thought there could be conte...   Sat 7th April 2012, 10:26am
Tarc   I used to be for including images until I found o...   Thu 5th April 2012, 4:39pm
Somey   So you used to be enlightened, but then became cor...   Thu 5th April 2012, 11:01pm
Web Fred   If you're a legitimate "encyclopedia,...   Fri 6th April 2012, 9:06am
Somey   If moslems want to dictate terms then they should ...   Fri 6th April 2012, 9:17am
Web Fred   Mind you, I'm not a Muslim, in fact I don...   Fri 6th April 2012, 9:55am
Mister Die   And no, I'm not anti-moslem, at least no more ...   Fri 6th April 2012, 1:47pm
Web Fred   And no, I'm not anti-moslem, at least no more...   Fri 6th April 2012, 2:51pm
Mister Die   The other thing I can't get my head around is ...   Fri 6th April 2012, 2:55pm
Web Fred   The other thing I can't get my head around is...   Fri 6th April 2012, 3:17pm
HRIP7   [quote name='Somey' post='304006' date='Fri 6th A...   Mon 9th April 2012, 10:00pm
Tarc   [quote name='Tarc' post='303985' date='Thu 5th Ap...   Fri 6th April 2012, 5:19pm
Somey   Somey, you ignorant prat. I was targeted by the J...   Fri 6th April 2012, 6:30pm
Tarc   Well, that's one way of defining "anti-M...   Fri 6th April 2012, 7:45pm
Somey   It is a shit argument borne of desperation. So, yo...   Sat 7th April 2012, 8:20am
Emperor   So, the whole idea of iconoclasm (and the histori...   Sun 8th April 2012, 1:06pm
Proabivouac   So, the whole idea of iconoclasm (and the histor...   Sun 8th April 2012, 9:48pm
Somey   Meaningful ideological reasons for the prohibition...   Wed 11th April 2012, 6:37am
Web Fred   Generally speaking, the early Muslims rejected m...   Wed 11th April 2012, 8:57am
jsalsman   ... nobody ever really competed to see who could ...   Sun 8th April 2012, 4:35pm
Tarc   Anyway, long story short... Rule 11, Somey. Rul...   Mon 9th April 2012, 4:36pm
Somey   The way you want this situation to resolve simply ...   Mon 9th April 2012, 5:37pm
Tarc   You misunderstand - I don't [i]want this situ...   Tue 10th April 2012, 7:01pm
Somey   Don't word-parse m'boy, it isn't your ...   Tue 10th April 2012, 10:12pm
Tarc   [quote name='Tarc' post='304127' date='Tue 10th A...   Wed 11th April 2012, 2:20pm
Web Fred   People don't have a right to be free of offen...   Wed 11th April 2012, 3:52pm
Somey   Perhaps if that person had actually made a logical...   Wed 11th April 2012, 7:06pm
Tarc   [quote name='Tarc' post='304145' date='Wed 11th A...   Wed 11th April 2012, 8:13pm
Fusion   But no, you presume that people insist on keeping...   Wed 11th April 2012, 9:17pm
Somey   But no, you presume that people insist on keeping ...   Wed 11th April 2012, 11:07pm
Bottled_Spider   I'd ask "how can you not see this," ...   Thu 12th April 2012, 10:21am
Tarc   But no, you presume that people insist on keeping...   Thu 12th April 2012, 12:34pm
Proabivouac   I believe that an encyclopedia is crippled if it ...   Thu 12th April 2012, 3:21pm
HRIP7   Don't get me wrong, I don't think that as...   Thu 12th April 2012, 6:25pm
Somey   I believe that an encyclopedia is crippled if it d...   Thu 12th April 2012, 5:57pm
Tarc   [quote name='Tarc' post='304174' date='Thu 12th A...   Fri 13th April 2012, 2:35pm
Somey   I have been making that argument for years, not my...   Fri 13th April 2012, 10:25pm
Web Fred   Perhaps if that person had actually made a logica...   Thu 12th April 2012, 8:57am
Fusion   Why is it automatically assumed that the minority...   Thu 12th April 2012, 10:25am
Web Fred   And it's not as if the Muslims are that much...   Thu 12th April 2012, 10:36am
dtobias   That's some solid binary thinking there, Mr. ...   Thu 12th April 2012, 8:38pm
Web Fred   [quote name='Somey' post='304150' date='Wed 11th ...   Fri 13th April 2012, 9:25am
Detective   I was targeted by the Jayjg Cabal and held up as ...   Sat 7th April 2012, 3:19pm
HRIP7   So you used to be enlightened, but then became co...   Mon 9th April 2012, 9:51pm
Mister Die   Jesus is given the "WASP" treatment beca...   Thu 5th April 2012, 1:54pm
Web Fred   Jesus is given the "WASP" treatment bec...   Thu 5th April 2012, 2:16pm
Bottled_Spider   Why don't they just dig up Muhammed's skul...   Fri 6th April 2012, 11:29am
Emperor   Having images of some dude hanging all over every ...   Fri 6th April 2012, 6:13pm
Mister Die   Well the portrait for King Richard III (at least t...   Fri 6th April 2012, 8:26pm
Bottled_Spider   After giving this most difficult of subjects consi...   Fri 6th April 2012, 8:58pm
Emperor   "blitzed our burgeoning discussion"? Wh...   Fri 13th April 2012, 3:15pm
Tarc   "blitzed our burgeoning discussion"? W...   Fri 13th April 2012, 6:53pm
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