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For no reason, Xavexgoem protected the Muhammad RFC "to avoid SPIs", which is not a valid reason for semi-protection. What else does Xavexgoem have on his record?
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QUOTE(jsalsman @ Thu 5th April 2012, 3:02am)  I used to be for including images until I found out that no contemporary depictions of Muhammad even exist. It's not about aniconism vs. NOTCENSORED, it's that there aren't any actual images of Muhammad. They are all made up, cartoons of someone else. So don't put any in the main article. Anyone who sees an image in the main article will be misled into thinking Muhammad may have looked like that when he didn't. That's completely unencyclopedic. Make a separate [[Depictions of Muhammad]] article and put them all there with a clear statement that they are all bogus in the first sentence.
I'd like to see you put the same response at the Jesus (T-H-L-K-D) and see what the response would be. The image at the top isn't Jesus, it's just the WASP version of him. By all accounts the real Jesus was black. The thing is, I don't see anyone using your argument for its removal. But thanks anyway for teaching me a new word: " aniconism (T-H-L-K-D)".
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Wikitaka Commons-hosted Muhammad Images Sun 25th March 2012, 10:39am Web Fred
For no reason, Xavexgoem [url=http://en.wikipedia... Sun 25th March 2012, 11:18am Tarc
For no reason, Xavexgoem protected the Muhammad R... Sun 25th March 2012, 1:01pm Web Fred
[quote name='Wikitaka' post='303524' date='Sun 25... Sun 25th March 2012, 1:14pm  Tarc
[quote name='Tarc' post='303529' date='Sun 25th M... Sun 25th March 2012, 1:26pm   Web Fred
The RfC is going pretty much as I expected it to... Sun 25th March 2012, 1:33pm   GlassBeadGame
The RfC is going pretty much as I expected it t... Sun 25th March 2012, 2:16pm    Wikitaka What concerns me most is that so many users want W... Sun 25th March 2012, 6:54pm     Web Fred
What concerns me most is that so many users want ... Sun 25th March 2012, 6:58pm    Tarc
The 500,000 strong petition,with a "Wikimani... Sun 25th March 2012, 7:22pm     Somey [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='303536' date='Su... Sun 25th March 2012, 7:36pm     GlassBeadGame
The 500,000 strong petition,with a "Wikiman... Sun 25th March 2012, 7:58pm      Proabivouac
[quote name='Tarc' post='303567' date='Sun 25th M... Sun 25th March 2012, 8:13pm      Tarc
[quote name='Tarc' post='303567' date='Sun 25th M... Sun 25th March 2012, 8:55pm       GlassBeadGame
[quote name='Tarc' post='303567' date='Sun 25th ... Sun 25th March 2012, 9:10pm        Tarc
[quote name='Tarc' post='303587' date='Sun 25th M... Sun 25th March 2012, 9:23pm         GlassBeadGame
and their request was denied.
Yes, by a couple... Sun 25th March 2012, 9:29pm Selina User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 96 #After SOPA, Muha... Sun 25th March 2012, 9:12pm Selina Caling people racist in a discussion without any k... Sun 25th March 2012, 9:47pm Selina (Mod note: Moved the steadily rolling GBGvTarc tra... Sun 25th March 2012, 10:43pm Mister Die To me the problems arise when people aren't pu... Mon 26th March 2012, 3:14am Tarc
To me the problems arise when people aren't p... Mon 26th March 2012, 6:02am HRIP7
To me the problems arise when people aren't p... Mon 26th March 2012, 8:20am  Web Fred
To me the problems arise when people aren't ... Mon 26th March 2012, 9:46am   HRIP7
[quote name='HRIP7' post='303656' date='Mon 26th ... Mon 26th March 2012, 2:49pm    Wikitaka Why not use the Muhammad cartoon? Remember, Wikipe... Thu 29th March 2012, 9:16am     Mister Die
Why not use the Muhammad cartoon? Remember, Wikip... Thu 29th March 2012, 9:27am      Fusion
"Not censored" doesn't mean "a... Thu 29th March 2012, 7:46pm       Web Fred
"Not censored" doesn't mean ... Thu 29th March 2012, 9:11pm        Mister Die I don't know about you, but I'm interested... Fri 30th March 2012, 12:06am        Fusion
So the concept that we, as human beings, generall... Sat 31st March 2012, 8:13pm         Web Fred
[quote name='Web Fred' post='303805' date='Thu 29... Sat 31st March 2012, 9:12pm          Fusion
It doesn't really matter what some people... Sun 1st April 2012, 2:08pm           Web Fred
It doesn't really matter what some people... Sun 1st April 2012, 2:31pm     Web Fred
Why not use the Muhammad cartoon? Remember, Wikip... Thu 29th March 2012, 9:36am      Wikitaka
Why not use the Muhammad cartoon? Remember, Wiki... Thu 29th March 2012, 12:17pm Tarc The "images are included to purposefully offe... Thu 29th March 2012, 9:32pm Web Fred
The "images are included to purposefully off... Thu 29th March 2012, 9:38pm Ottava I think this is similar to Wikipedia hosting a pic... Mon 2nd April 2012, 2:27pm Proabivouac
I used to be for including images until I found o... Thu 5th April 2012, 5:13am  Fusion
By all accounts the real Jesus was black.
That i... Thu 5th April 2012, 11:31am   Web Fred
By all accounts the real Jesus was black.
That ... Thu 5th April 2012, 11:46am Bottled_Spider I used to be for including images until I found ou... Thu 5th April 2012, 10:36am  Detective
the image of him in Western society and culture s... Thu 5th April 2012, 8:49pm  jsalsman You mean you actually thought there could be conte... Sat 7th April 2012, 1:18am   Bottled_Spider You mean you actually thought there could be conte... Sat 7th April 2012, 10:26am Tarc
I used to be for including images until I found o... Thu 5th April 2012, 4:39pm  Somey So you used to be enlightened, but then became cor... Thu 5th April 2012, 11:01pm   Web Fred If you're a legitimate "encyclopedia,... Fri 6th April 2012, 9:06am    Somey If moslems want to dictate terms then they should ... Fri 6th April 2012, 9:17am     Web Fred
Mind you, I'm not a Muslim, in fact I don... Fri 6th April 2012, 9:55am      Mister Die And no, I'm not anti-moslem, at least no more ... Fri 6th April 2012, 1:47pm       Web Fred
And no, I'm not anti-moslem, at least no more... Fri 6th April 2012, 2:51pm        Mister Die The other thing I can't get my head around is ... Fri 6th April 2012, 2:55pm         Web Fred
The other thing I can't get my head around is... Fri 6th April 2012, 3:17pm      HRIP7
[quote name='Somey' post='304006' date='Fri 6th A... Mon 9th April 2012, 10:00pm   Tarc
[quote name='Tarc' post='303985' date='Thu 5th Ap... Fri 6th April 2012, 5:19pm    Somey Somey, you ignorant prat. I was targeted by the J... Fri 6th April 2012, 6:30pm     Tarc
Well, that's one way of defining "anti-M... Fri 6th April 2012, 7:45pm      Somey It is a shit argument borne of desperation.
So, yo... Sat 7th April 2012, 8:20am       Emperor
So, the whole idea of iconoclasm (and the histori... Sun 8th April 2012, 1:06pm        Proabivouac
So, the whole idea of iconoclasm (and the histor... Sun 8th April 2012, 9:48pm         Somey Meaningful ideological reasons for the prohibition... Wed 11th April 2012, 6:37am          Web Fred
Generally speaking, the early Muslims rejected m... Wed 11th April 2012, 8:57am       jsalsman ... nobody ever really competed to see who could ... Sun 8th April 2012, 4:35pm       Tarc Anyway, long story short...
Rule 11, Somey. Rul... Mon 9th April 2012, 4:36pm        Somey The way you want this situation to resolve simply ... Mon 9th April 2012, 5:37pm         Tarc
You misunderstand - I don't [i]want this situ... Tue 10th April 2012, 7:01pm          Somey Don't word-parse m'boy, it isn't your ... Tue 10th April 2012, 10:12pm           Tarc
[quote name='Tarc' post='304127' date='Tue 10th A... Wed 11th April 2012, 2:20pm            Web Fred
People don't have a right to be free of offen... Wed 11th April 2012, 3:52pm            Somey Perhaps if that person had actually made a logical... Wed 11th April 2012, 7:06pm             Tarc
[quote name='Tarc' post='304145' date='Wed 11th A... Wed 11th April 2012, 8:13pm              Fusion
But no, you presume that people insist on keeping... Wed 11th April 2012, 9:17pm              Somey But no, you presume that people insist on keeping ... Wed 11th April 2012, 11:07pm               Bottled_Spider I'd ask "how can you not see this," ... Thu 12th April 2012, 10:21am               Tarc
But no, you presume that people insist on keeping... Thu 12th April 2012, 12:34pm                Proabivouac
I believe that an encyclopedia is crippled if it ... Thu 12th April 2012, 3:21pm                 HRIP7
Don't get me wrong, I don't think that as... Thu 12th April 2012, 6:25pm                Somey I believe that an encyclopedia is crippled if it d... Thu 12th April 2012, 5:57pm                 Tarc
[quote name='Tarc' post='304174' date='Thu 12th A... Fri 13th April 2012, 2:35pm                  Somey I have been making that argument for years, not my... Fri 13th April 2012, 10:25pm             Web Fred
Perhaps if that person had actually made a logica... Thu 12th April 2012, 8:57am              Fusion
Why is it automatically assumed that the minority... Thu 12th April 2012, 10:25am               Web Fred
And it's not as if the Muslims are that much... Thu 12th April 2012, 10:36am             dtobias
That's some solid binary thinking there, Mr. ... Thu 12th April 2012, 8:38pm              Web Fred
[quote name='Somey' post='304150' date='Wed 11th ... Fri 13th April 2012, 9:25am    Detective
I was targeted by the Jayjg Cabal and held up as ... Sat 7th April 2012, 3:19pm   HRIP7
So you used to be enlightened, but then became co... Mon 9th April 2012, 9:51pm Mister Die Jesus is given the "WASP" treatment beca... Thu 5th April 2012, 1:54pm Web Fred
Jesus is given the "WASP" treatment bec... Thu 5th April 2012, 2:16pm Bottled_Spider Why don't they just dig up Muhammed's skul... Fri 6th April 2012, 11:29am Emperor Having images of some dude hanging all over every ... Fri 6th April 2012, 6:13pm Mister Die Well the portrait for King Richard III (at least t... Fri 6th April 2012, 8:26pm Bottled_Spider After giving this most difficult of subjects consi... Fri 6th April 2012, 8:58pm Emperor "blitzed our burgeoning discussion"? Wh... Fri 13th April 2012, 3:15pm Tarc
"blitzed our burgeoning discussion"? W... Fri 13th April 2012, 6:53pm
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