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Tarc
post Mon 28th May 2012, 1:32pm
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Mon 28th May 2012, 9:07am) *

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Just as I called it quite awhile ago, the status quo is upheld.

I think that never was there any doubt as to the outcome. Indeed given those who were likely to take part it was easy to foretell. What has been discussed in this thread is what ought to happen in a sensible world. That they are different says much about WP, no?


They aren't different at all, no. The "real world" of the West here doesn't defer to prehistoric religions either.
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post Mon 28th May 2012, 3:02pm
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 28th May 2012, 2:00pm) *

Just as I called it quite awhile ago, the status quo is upheld.



The 3 chords will have to suffice then.

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Mon 28th May 2012, 9:07am) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 28th May 2012, 2:00pm) *

Just as I called it quite awhile ago, the status quo is upheld.

I think that never was there any doubt as to the outcome. Indeed given those who were likely to take part it was easy to foretell. What has been discussed in this thread is what ought to happen in a sensible world. That they are different says much about WP, no?


They aren't different at all, no. The "real world" of the West here doesn't defer to prehistoric religions either.


The "real world" of the West here doesn't defer to different prehistoric religions either.

There, sorted it for you.
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post Mon 28th May 2012, 3:23pm
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Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Muhammad images (T-H-L-K-D)

After closely examining the arguments put forth in each section, we have concluded that the status quo of the Muhammad article should largely be retained. For proposal 1, we found there to be no consensus to put any type of hatnote in the article. In the discussion of question 2, we found that there was the strongest consensus to put a calligraphic depiction of Muhammad in the infobox. With regards to the placement of other figurative images, we found that the current status quo -- of using figurative images of the highest encyclopedic value to illustrate important events in the subject’s life -- had the most support. This was accompanied by a general sentiment that figurative images were not necessary before the “Life” section, but would certainly be necessary after that point. However, editors should remember that calligraphic representations are the most common, and should not add images, especially figurative ones, without a clear encyclopedic reason to do so. Furthermore, there was a clear consensus to avoid any quota of figurative or calligraphic image, and to let the text of the article dictate the images used. There was no consensus for how the principle of least astonishment should apply to Muhammad.


Just as I called it quite awhile ago, the status quo is upheld.

A nice, shiny

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to Somey and AssBeadGame. Better luck next time, fuckwits. smile.gif


I'm crushed. I was certain that enlightened Wikipedians, who always represent the best in all human endeavors, would do the right thing. How could this happen? It is enough to shake my faith in Wikipedia and goodness of nerds.
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post Mon 28th May 2012, 3:36pm
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Mon 28th May 2012, 4:23pm) *

I was certain that enlightened Wikipedians, who always represent the best in all human endeavors, would do the right thing.


Poor, poor deluded GBG. Don't you understand? They did do the right thing.

Now toddle off, to whatever it is non-nerds do..
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post Tue 5th June 2012, 12:37pm
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(Moderrration [should we really have to?])

Ok, a tonne of complaints received over this stuff, and it's really hard to work out where to break it off, since some comments that are nothing but insults are mixed in with actual comments over the issues, but yeah. Train of tit-for-tat insults moved to here, try keep at least vaguely on topic!
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Ok, a tonne of complaints received over this stuff, and it's really hard to work out where to break it off, since some comments that are nothing but insults are mixed in with actual comments over the issues, but yeah. Train of tit-for-tat insults moved to here, try keep at least vaguely on topic!


What we are seeing on the web on a general level is that ZuckerBorg's creation is effectively contributing to the closure of small independent forums, resulting in the creation of a big ocean, many thousands of kilometres wide but only one millimeter deep, and with many problems with data security.
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post Wed 6th June 2012, 2:45pm
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I declare myself the thread-winner.

/pats self on back
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 6th June 2012, 3:45pm) *

I declare myself the thread-winner.

/pats self on back

If that makes you feel smug and clever, then no doubt you now feel smug and clever.


QUOTE(Selina @ Tue 5th June 2012, 1:37pm) *

(Moderrration [should we really have to?])

Ok, a tonne of complaints received over this stuff, and it's really hard to work out where to break it off, since some comments that are nothing but insults are mixed in with actual comments over the issues, but yeah. Train of tit-for-tat insults moved to here, try keep at least vaguely on topic!

The sooner we have more moderators the better.

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Wed 6th June 2012, 3:40pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 6th June 2012, 3:45pm) *

I declare myself the thread-winner.

/pats self on back

If that makes you feel smug and lcever, then no doubt you now feel smug and clever.


Nah, I was feeling smug and clever way before then.
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 6th June 2012, 3:09pm) *

QUOTE(Fusion @ Wed 6th June 2012, 3:40pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 6th June 2012, 3:45pm) *

I declare myself the thread-winner.

/pats self on back

If that makes you feel smug and lcever, then no doubt you now feel smug and clever.


Nah, I was feeling smug and clever way before then.


If it wears off drink some more and pick on some poor immigrant. You'll be your old self in no time.
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post Thu 7th June 2012, 11:40am
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 6th June 2012, 9:09pm) *

QUOTE(Fusion @ Wed 6th June 2012, 3:40pm) *

If that makes you feel smug and clever, then no doubt you now feel smug and clever.


Nah, I was feeling smug and clever way before then.

I doubt it not. But to say that you now feel smug is surely not to deny that you have felt thus for many years.
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Wed 6th June 2012, 8:13pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 6th June 2012, 3:09pm) *

QUOTE(Fusion @ Wed 6th June 2012, 3:40pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 6th June 2012, 3:45pm) *

I declare myself the thread-winner.

/pats self on back

If that makes you feel smug and lcever, then no doubt you now feel smug and clever.


Nah, I was feeling smug and clever way before then.


If it wears off drink some more and pick on some poor immigrant. You'll be your old self in no time.


GBG, I love immigrants. As long as they come in the front door. You're not one of those limp-wristed amnesty-for-illegals types, are you?


QUOTE(Fusion @ Thu 7th June 2012, 7:40am) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 6th June 2012, 9:09pm) *

QUOTE(Fusion @ Wed 6th June 2012, 3:40pm) *

If that makes you feel smug and clever, then no doubt you now feel smug and clever.


Nah, I was feeling smug and clever way before then.

I doubt it not. But to say that you now feel smug is surely not to deny that you have felt thus for many years.


Isn't that what I just said?
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 7th June 2012, 1:20pm) *
GBG, I love immigrants. As long as they come in the front door. You're not one of those limp-wristed amnesty-for-illegals types, are you?

I dunno about GBG, but I support amnesty. I'm also a "son of the revolution", so presumably my opinion matters much more than yours does.
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Thu 7th June 2012, 6:12pm) *

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GBG, I love immigrants. As long as they come in the front door. You're not one of those limp-wristed amnesty-for-illegals types, are you?

I dunno about GBG, but I support amnesty. I'm also a "son of the revolution", so presumably my opinion matters much more than yours does.


You're a low-life scab last time I checked.
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Thu 7th June 2012, 7:35pm) *

QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Thu 7th June 2012, 6:12pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 7th June 2012, 1:20pm) *
GBG, I love immigrants. As long as they come in the front door. You're not one of those limp-wristed amnesty-for-illegals types, are you?

I dunno about GBG, but I support amnesty. I'm also a "son of the revolution", so presumably my opinion matters much more than yours does.

You're a low-life scab last time I checked.

I can't be both? blink.gif
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Is this an attempt to be the stupidest thread in WR's history?
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QUOTE(Jay @ Sat 9th June 2012, 1:29pm) *

Is this an attempt to be the stupidest thread in WR's history?


I question the 'an attempt' part.
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QUOTE(-DS- @ Sat 9th June 2012, 1:02pm) *

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Is this an attempt to be the stupidest thread in WR's history?


I question the 'an attempt' part.

So you say that Jay should say "Is this to be the stupidest thread in WR's history?" As I understand it that would be a future construction. Yet surely it is already the stupidest!
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Sat 9th June 2012, 11:29pm) *

QUOTE(-DS- @ Sat 9th June 2012, 1:02pm) *

QUOTE(Jay @ Sat 9th June 2012, 1:29pm) *

Is this an attempt to be the stupidest thread in WR's history?


I question the 'an attempt' part.

So you say that Jay should say "Is this to be the stupidest thread in WR's history?" As I understand it that would be a future construction. Yet surely it is already the stupidest!


I'm sure you're enjoying this, but my meaning was clear.
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Sat 9th June 2012, 10:29pm) *

QUOTE(-DS- @ Sat 9th June 2012, 1:02pm) *

QUOTE(Jay @ Sat 9th June 2012, 1:29pm) *

Is this an attempt to be the stupidest thread in WR's history?


I question the 'an attempt' part.

So you say that Jay should say "Is this to be the stupidest thread in WR's history?" As I understand it that would be a future construction. Yet surely it is already the stupidest!


In fact, shouldn't it be "most stupid"?
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