The Wikipedia Review: A forum for discussion and criticism of Wikipedia
Wikipedia Review Op-Ed Pages

Welcome, Guest! ( Log In | Register )

> On the Nature and Sources of Expertise, Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief Wiki Systems
Jonny Cache
post Wed 27th September 2006, 6:49pm
Post #1


τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε
*********

Group: Contributors
Posts: 5,100
Joined: Sat 9th Sep 2006, 1:52am
Member No.: 398

WP user page - talk
check - contribs



On the Nature and Sources of Expertise

Questions about the nature of expertise have been coming up in several of the forums where I spend my time of late, and I've begun to notice curious discrepancies among the things that different people say about it, not to mention the many divergences between those assumptions and the way that I've always thought about expertise, well, at least, for as long as I can remember. So I think I'll break the ice with that.

Just trying to resuscitate this topic that keeps coming up in parallel dialogues on both the old wiki and the new wiki, but that just as quickly keeps falling into some kind of narcoleptic coma. This time I'll try a tactic of selective cross-posting between the two wikiverses of Citizendium and Wikipedia Review.

Nota Bene. This essay is being transposted to the following two wikiverses:Jonny cool.gif

This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Fri 29th September 2006, 5:45pm
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
Jonny Cache
post Tue 3rd October 2006, 8:53pm
Post #2


τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε
*********

Group: Contributors
Posts: 5,100
Joined: Sat 9th Sep 2006, 1:52am
Member No.: 398

WP user page - talk
check - contribs



I do not normally think of myself as an expert in anything. I think of myself as a person who does not know anywhere near as much as he wanted to know about all of the things that he wanted to know about. But I do on occasion find myself in discussions with people where I come to realize that I have at least read about many things that they have not, and where I realize that I have had some actual hard-knocks practice in many areas that they have not. And when that happens there's no use being so humble and, er, "non-elitist", as to kid anybody about it -- indeed, it's irresponsible to do so, as it disrespects the lives and the works of those authors and teachers who took the trouble to pass on that knowledge to little ole me.

So if I were free to pick the terms of discussion -- a freedom that I may take back in a moment -- I would almost certainly replace talk of expertise with talk of experience and knowledge, and then I would almost certainly replace talk of knowledge with talk of the process by which we acquire knowledge, to wit, inquiry.

Jonny cool.gif

This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Tue 3rd October 2006, 8:56pm
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Placeholder
post Tue 3rd October 2006, 9:45pm
Post #3


Member
***

Group: On Vacation
Posts: 204
Joined: Sun 25th Jun 2006, 7:29pm
Member No.: 287



/

This post has been edited by Joey: Sun 15th October 2006, 10:01pm
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
Jonny Cache   On the Nature and Sources of Expertise   Wed 27th September 2006, 6:49pm
Jonny Cache   Cloning Somey's initial remarks on this topic:...   Wed 27th September 2006, 7:30pm
Joey   /   Wed 27th September 2006, 11:10pm
Jonny Cache   http://wikipediareview.com/stimg9x0b4fsr2/1/folder...   Thu 28th September 2006, 1:48am
Joey   /   Thu 28th September 2006, 1:58am
Jonny Cache   Re: Joey V, Supra I don't know. I kind of li...   Thu 28th September 2006, 3:41am
poopooball   some1 above put the prob w/sangers proj perfectly....   Thu 28th September 2006, 12:24pm
guy   Depends whether you can demonstrate your expertise...   Thu 28th September 2006, 12:50pm
Jonny Cache   Expertise is a many, not a one [*] Talkin' ...   Thu 28th September 2006, 7:01pm
Jonny Cache   Seeing that the solitary impulse engines that I ca...   Thu 28th September 2006, 8:53pm
Jonny Cache   I won't exactly reject the hypothesis that som...   Tue 3rd October 2006, 5:19pm
IronDuke   I will opine here that in your discussion of exper...   Tue 3rd October 2006, 6:49pm
Joey   /   Tue 3rd October 2006, 7:57pm
Jonny Cache   IronDuke & All -- I'm trying to remember ...   Tue 3rd October 2006, 7:21pm
Joey   /   Tue 3rd October 2006, 9:45pm
Jonny Cache   Referring once again to Somey's earlier remark...   Tue 3rd October 2006, 11:49pm
Jonny Cache   A person with topical experience and knowledge mi...   Wed 4th October 2006, 3:01am
Somey   I tried to start a more nuanced discussion of the ...   Wed 4th October 2006, 3:50am
Jonny Cache   I tried to start a more nuanced discussion of the...   Wed 4th October 2006, 1:26pm
Jonny Cache   Sanger had some form of complex editorial hybrid ...   Wed 4th October 2006, 3:47am
Jonny Cache   Perk-o-lating this back to the Top Of Our Heads â€...   Mon 12th November 2007, 6:16pm
thekohser   Guy Chapman is referring people to peruse Wikipedi...   Mon 12th November 2007, 7:04pm
Jonny Cache   Guy Chapman is referring people to peruse Wikiped...   Mon 12th November 2007, 7:44pm
Jon Awbrey   Been thinking about this again lately in a more pr...   Thu 18th August 2011, 6:36pm


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

-   Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 19th 6 13, 3:18am