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> Pending Changes will be implemented by December 2012, 61% is concensus?
Michaeldsuarez
post Mon 25th June 2012, 1:02pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pen...or_Comment_2012:

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[...] Pending Changes will become live on 1 December, 2012. To allow developers enough preparation time, we recommend that community discussion about changes to the draft Pending Changes policy be concluded no later than 1 November, 2012. If the community has not, at that time, reached a consensus about how to change the draft policy, Pending Changes will be implemented according to the terms of the Draft Policy until the community can find a consensus.


Wikipedia will be using Pending Changes by December 2012.

Below is a hyperlink to the "default" Pending Changes policy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pen...visional_policy

What's surprising here is that the Provisional policy (Position #2) only had 61% of the !voters supporting it. That percentage is lower than the usual threshold for consensus.
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Fusion
post Mon 25th June 2012, 8:21pm
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"Consensus" means agreeing with the powerful ones.
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post Tue 26th June 2012, 7:36am
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Mon 25th June 2012, 11:21pm) *

"Consensus" means agreeing with the powerful ones.


Yes, my worry is that this new policy will make it easier for policemen like AGK to repress content on Wikipedia. This is AGK, a Roman Catholic, trying to stop Joe Decker from editing on the Roman Catholic paedophilia scandals (his obsessive hounding of my associate the "sock puppeteer" Rinpoche no doubt similarly motivated; Rinpoche was blocked (eventually to be banned) because of his rather agressive defence of an article he contributed about sexual abuse in Western Buddhist orders - link is to a WayBack archive of the article):

== NOTICE ==

This is a Warning from The Wikipedia RC Patrol.

Please stop adding sexually explicit content and nonsense to Wikipedia.

Further attempts to do so will result in implications against your user account.

Thank you


In this case when we try to check the progress of this naked threat (Joe Decker is a respected editor and administrator), we find the whole episode is revision deleted on AGK's talk page.

I do fear we will be seeing a lot more of this kind of thing.
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post Tue 26th June 2012, 9:39am
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QUOTE(FightingMac @ Tue 26th June 2012, 8:36am) *

QUOTE(Fusion @ Mon 25th June 2012, 11:21pm) *

"Consensus" means agreeing with the powerful ones.


Yes, my worry is that this new policy will make it easier for policemen like AGK to repress content on Wikipedia. This is AGK, a Roman Catholic, trying to stop Joe Decker from editing on the Roman Catholic paedophilia scandals (his obsessive hounding of my associate the "sock puppeteer" Rinpoche no doubt similarly motivated; Rinpoche was blocked (eventually to be banned) because of his rather agressive defence of an article he contributed about sexual abuse in Western Buddhist orders - link is to a WayBack archive of the article):

== NOTICE ==

This is a Warning from The Wikipedia RC Patrol.

Please stop adding sexually explicit content and nonsense to Wikipedia.

Further attempts to do so will result in implications against your user account.

Thank you


In this case when we try to check the progress of this naked threat (Joe Decker is a respected editor and administrator), we find the whole episode is revision deleted on AGK's talk page.

I do fear we will be seeing a lot more of this kind of thing.


I do find it hard to believe that FloNight would have written a welcome message that needed removing.
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Michaeldsuarez   Pending Changes will be implemented by December 2012   Mon 25th June 2012, 1:02pm
Fusion   "Consensus" means agreeing with the powe...   Mon 25th June 2012, 8:21pm
Web Fred   "Consensus" means agreeing with the pow...   Mon 25th June 2012, 8:58pm
Mortimer   One thing I have never understood, maybe others do...   Sat 30th June 2012, 2:00pm
Achromatic   No. It won't.   Tue 24th July 2012, 11:09pm
Mortimer   No. It won't. Hey, you were right!   Wed 24th April 2013, 9:41pm


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