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| gomi |
Thu 30th November 2006, 8:11pm
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I am amused and befuddled by the current ArbCom case re Rachel Marsden. The ArbCom has come down with a bunch of tough-minded words about BLPs. On the one hand, I can see that the article would be embarassing and damaging to Marsden, resurfacing a 10-year-old false date-rape case and more recent criminal harassment charges. Marsden has apparently complained in person to Wales about this. While not finding any material unsourced, the ArbCom case says that the article is "too negative" and anyone can essentially blank it. Does this apply to Brandts article? To all BLPs? On the other hand, the statements in this article, while negative, were well-sourced, and all the information remains in the article history. Finally, and perhaps most bizarrely, SlimVirgin is the one who has stubbed and full-protected the page -- she isn't ArbCom and has not thus far been involved.
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| Somey |
Fri 8th December 2006, 12:28am
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SLIMVIRGIN MASSIVE HYPOCRISY ALERThttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rachel_M...g_started_againI'd quote some stuff, but you almost have to read the whole thing to get the full effect. At least Slimmy has finally admitted to being a right-winger, for all intents and purposes. ...Oh, all right, here's one: QUOTE My view is that mistakes people make in their early twenties shouldn't be held against them by Wikipedia forever, especially if the mainstream media has stopped writing about it, and if the issue didn't lead to court action. We're an encyclopedia, not a tattoo service. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC) I mean, you see things like this, and you have to think, she's laughing at everyone. Wikipedia is basically her personal revenge platform at this point, and she certainly won't let it be anyone else's revenge platform, either. There's also some talk towards the end about Marsden's sexual harrassment cases "never seeing the inside of a courtroom." I think it's important here, in the interests of truth and accuracy, to point out that the overwhelming proportion of all sexual harrassment accusations are never brought to trial. Nobody wants to bring those kinds of cases to court; they're extremely ugly for both sides. They're almost always handled internally by the companies involved, or settled out of court, and for good reason. That kind of rhetoric is deceptive, and typically used by abusers and corporate shills to get the media off their backs. I'm not saying Marsden did (or didn't) do any of those things she was accused of, but she was formally accused, plain and simple. So... the fact that Slimmy uses that form of spin is suggestive, at least to anyone who's paying attention.
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QUOTE(gomi @ Fri 8th December 2006, 1:03am)  QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 7th December 2006, 4:28pm)  SLIMVIRGIN MASSIVE HYPOCRISY ALERT
And in other news, SUN CONTINUES TO RISE IN THE EASTThis just in: SMOKING MAY LEAD TO CANCER
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gomi Rachel Marsden: The Fundamental Schizophrenia of BLP Thu 30th November 2006, 8:11pm Somey SlimVirgin might know Rachel Marsden personally. T... Thu 30th November 2006, 8:54pm gomi
Though Coulter's getting a little pigeon-toed... Thu 30th November 2006, 9:09pm Kato
As for Jimbo, he was once photographed with Ann C... Mon 3rd March 2008, 12:18am Somey ...when Horseback riding becomes a way of life? He... Thu 30th November 2006, 9:23pm gomi
...when Horseback riding becomes a way of life? H... Thu 30th November 2006, 9:45pm Somey Hmm. I'd forgotten about her... I just feel re... Thu 30th November 2006, 10:33pm Somey Okay, before we get too carried away here, let... Thu 30th November 2006, 11:09pm guy I thought the problem was that most of what she ob... Fri 1st December 2006, 10:26am Somey I thought the problem was that most of what she ob... Fri 1st December 2006, 4:08pm taiwopanfob One of the complainants -- and a defender of Marsd... Fri 1st December 2006, 6:43pm Somey It might be interesting to see if Wikitruth.info d... Sat 2nd December 2006, 4:03am Somey News Flash!
Wikipedia now [i]officially has a... Mon 4th December 2006, 7:42pm Somey Really? I had no idea it did that!
Sorry, I g... Fri 8th December 2006, 1:19am gomi Sorry, just yankin' yer chain ...
Now, to add... Fri 8th December 2006, 6:45am jorge
Sorry, just yankin' yer chain ...
Now, to ad... Fri 8th December 2006, 9:49am Somey Sorry, just yankin' yer chain ...
Don't wo... Fri 8th December 2006, 4:16pm AV Roe
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Now, to ad... Sat 9th December 2006, 10:48pm Herschelkrustofsky Before BLP, there was the "Chip Berlet except... Mon 11th December 2006, 4:00pm Jonny Cache Too busy to look up the diffs right now, but if yo... Mon 11th December 2006, 4:22pm Herschelkrustofsky
Of course, it's hardly worth our trouble noti... Mon 11th December 2006, 10:54pm Kato ...time to re-cast our eyes over this old thread, ... Sat 1st March 2008, 5:36am Kato This article gives a basic Jimbo Wales / Rachel Ma... Sat 1st March 2008, 6:33am Derktar There's a flurry of JoshuaZ activity as well. Sat 1st March 2008, 6:36am Kato I guess it was this type of thing JzG was ordered ... Sat 1st March 2008, 6:55am Doc glasgow I've just removed badly sourced salacious alle... Sat 1st March 2008, 12:19pm  thekohser
I've just removed badly sourced salacious all... Sat 1st March 2008, 12:50pm   Doc glasgow
Aren't you confusing "biographies" ... Sat 1st March 2008, 12:57pm  badlydrawnjeff
You should not have to be Jimmy, or sleep with Ji... Sat 1st March 2008, 1:20pm  thekohser
For the record (and I think my record is reasonab... Sat 1st March 2008, 1:26pm  Daniel Brandt
You should not have to be Jimmy, or sleep with J... Sat 1st March 2008, 1:34pm  UseOnceAndDestroy
For the record (and I think my record is reasonab... Sat 1st March 2008, 1:41pm   UseOnceAndDestroy
[quote name='Doc glasgow' post='82401' date='Sat ... Sun 2nd March 2008, 10:56pm    Derktar
Hey, how about [url=http://mashable.com]http://ma... Sun 2nd March 2008, 11:03pm     UseOnceAndDestroy
[quote name='UseOnceAndDestroy' post='82770' date... Sun 2nd March 2008, 11:07pm      dogbiscuit
[quote name='UseOnceAndDestroy' post='82770' dat... Sun 2nd March 2008, 11:21pm       Kato
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[quote name='dogbiscuit' post='82780' date='Sun 2... Sun 2nd March 2008, 11:49pm         Derktar
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[quote name='UseOnceAndDestroy' post='82419' date... Mon 3rd March 2008, 12:11am     UseOnceAndDestroy
[quote name='UseOnceAndDestroy' post='82770' date... Mon 3rd March 2008, 12:28pm      UseOnceAndDestroy
[quote name='UseOnceAndDestroy' post='82803' date... Mon 3rd March 2008, 5:20pm       thekohser
"Doc"? Are you there, "Doc"?... Mon 3rd March 2008, 6:26pm       UseOnceAndDestroy
[quote name='UseOnceAndDestroy' post='82933' date... Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:01pm        thekohser
He sure is - doing the only thing he can, [url=ht... Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:20pm  Moulton Every living person should be able to expect eithe... Sat 1st March 2008, 4:02pm   Jonny Cache
This persistent failure to prevent, avoid, or rem... Sat 1st March 2008, 4:08pm thekohser
I guess it was this type of thing JzG was ordered... Sat 1st March 2008, 12:34pm Jonny Cache Haven't been able to follow all this, but thos... Sat 1st March 2008, 3:53pm Moulton Do you mean to tell me (and this committee) that W... Sat 1st March 2008, 4:13pm Jonny Cache
Do you mean to tell me (and this committee) that ... Sat 1st March 2008, 4:22pm Kato According to former Jimbo Wales confidant Danny Wo... Sat 1st March 2008, 5:33pm Kato JoshuaZ writes
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.p... Sat 1st March 2008, 11:00pm guy
Is he seriously suggesting that JzG, living in Re... Sun 2nd March 2008, 12:19am WordBomb For your collective sleuthing enjoyment, I've ... Sun 2nd March 2008, 12:29am guy So by far the main editor is Bucketsofg (264 edits... Sun 2nd March 2008, 12:41am WordBomb 70.25.152.39 = Rachel Marsden
70.25.91.205 = Ceaur... Sun 2nd March 2008, 12:47am  Derktar
70.25.152.39 = Rachel Marsden
70.25.91.205 = Ceau... Sun 2nd March 2008, 12:55am Heat Ceraurus and Arthur Ellis are both Journalism prof... Sun 2nd March 2008, 1:49am Milton Roe
Ceraurus and Arthur Ellis are both Journalism pro... Tue 4th March 2008, 2:25am Moulton According to my scorecard, Jimbo's biggest fea... Mon 3rd March 2008, 6:29pm Giano
According to my scorecard, Jimbo's biggest fe... Mon 3rd March 2008, 7:03pm  Peter Damian
the temptation to post an edited version of this ... Mon 3rd March 2008, 7:13pm   Giano
[quote name='Giano' post='83021' date='Mon 3rd Ma... Mon 3rd March 2008, 7:43pm    AB Picking a mistress is rather like buying a horse,... Mon 3rd March 2008, 7:45pm     Giano
Picking a mistress is rather like buying a horse... Mon 3rd March 2008, 7:51pm      AB [quote name='AB' post='83029' date='Mon 3rd March... Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:04pm       Milton Roe
In the name of the Unforgettable Butterflies, sto... Tue 4th March 2008, 3:29am        AB In the name of the Unforgettable Butterflies, st... Tue 4th March 2008, 11:49am     thekohser
Picking a mistress is rather like buying a horse... Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:07pm      AB [quote name='AB' post='83029' date='Mon 3rd March... Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:11pm  Pumpkin Muffins
There are times when it hard not to feel some fo... Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:04pm   Pumpkin Muffins
[quote name='Giano' post='83021' date='Mon 3rd Ma... Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:31pm    No one of consequence
[quote name='Giano' post='83021' date='Mon 3rd M... Mon 3rd March 2008, 10:29pm     Kato
No, you were right the first time. In the real w... Mon 3rd March 2008, 11:14pm      Doc glasgow Let's be clear.
1) I don't care who Jimbo... Tue 4th March 2008, 12:03am       gomi
Let's be clear. ... The COI is bullshit. I ca... Tue 4th March 2008, 12:54am        Doc glasgow
Let's be clear. ... The COI is bullshit. I c... Tue 4th March 2008, 12:58am         gomi Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's curr... Tue 4th March 2008, 1:07am         dogbiscuit
Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's cur... Tue 4th March 2008, 1:09am          jorge
Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's cu... Tue 4th March 2008, 1:16am           Doc glasgow /Sigh/, those who wish to see conspiracy, will alw... Tue 4th March 2008, 1:23am            guy
But, I suppose you guys need your Emmanuel Goldst... Tue 4th March 2008, 10:20am         Pumpkin Muffins
Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's cu... Tue 4th March 2008, 1:23am         Kato
Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's cur... Tue 4th March 2008, 1:24am         Ior
Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's cu... Tue 4th March 2008, 2:53am       Kato
BLPs are not news aggregaters. Because it's n... Tue 4th March 2008, 1:15am       GlassBeadGame
Let's be clear.
1) I don't care who Jimb... Tue 4th March 2008, 2:20am       thekohser
Let's be clear.
1) ...Jimbo often asks OTRS ... Tue 4th March 2008, 2:43am       AB 2) The COI is bullshit. I can't see anything ... Tue 4th March 2008, 2:57am        Kato The whole place is tragically hypocritical and inc... Tue 4th March 2008, 3:15am Heat I know they are owned by the same outfit (Rupert M... Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:45pm dogbiscuit Swiss Jimbo Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:11pm Saltimbanco Idle question: did Wikipedia pay for Jimbo to fly ... Tue 4th March 2008, 12:45am Somey What he said!
Still, Giano could have just as... Tue 4th March 2008, 5:51am Miltopia Maybe we could all have a lesson on what a "s... Tue 4th March 2008, 7:27am Moulton Of all the news coverage, I thought the WiReD arti... Tue 4th March 2008, 8:01am
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