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gomi
post Thu 30th November 2006, 8:11pm
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I am amused and befuddled by the current ArbCom case re Rachel Marsden. The ArbCom has come down with a bunch of tough-minded words about BLPs.

On the one hand, I can see that the article would be embarassing and damaging to Marsden, resurfacing a 10-year-old false date-rape case and more recent criminal harassment charges. Marsden has apparently complained in person to Wales about this. While not finding any material unsourced, the ArbCom case says that the article is "too negative" and anyone can essentially blank it. Does this apply to Brandts article? To all BLPs?

On the other hand, the statements in this article, while negative, were well-sourced, and all the information remains in the article history.

Finally, and perhaps most bizarrely, SlimVirgin is the one who has stubbed and full-protected the page -- she isn't ArbCom and has not thus far been involved.
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post Fri 8th December 2006, 12:28am
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SLIMVIRGIN MASSIVE HYPOCRISY ALERT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rachel_M...g_started_again

I'd quote some stuff, but you almost have to read the whole thing to get the full effect. At least Slimmy has finally admitted to being a right-winger, for all intents and purposes.

...Oh, all right, here's one:

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My view is that mistakes people make in their early twenties shouldn't be held against them by Wikipedia forever, especially if the mainstream media has stopped writing about it, and if the issue didn't lead to court action. We're an encyclopedia, not a tattoo service. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I mean, you see things like this, and you have to think, she's laughing at everyone. Wikipedia is basically her personal revenge platform at this point, and she certainly won't let it be anyone else's revenge platform, either.

There's also some talk towards the end about Marsden's sexual harrassment cases "never seeing the inside of a courtroom." I think it's important here, in the interests of truth and accuracy, to point out that the overwhelming proportion of all sexual harrassment accusations are never brought to trial. Nobody wants to bring those kinds of cases to court; they're extremely ugly for both sides. They're almost always handled internally by the companies involved, or settled out of court, and for good reason.

That kind of rhetoric is deceptive, and typically used by abusers and corporate shills to get the media off their backs. I'm not saying Marsden did (or didn't) do any of those things she was accused of, but she was formally accused, plain and simple. So... the fact that Slimmy uses that form of spin is suggestive, at least to anyone who's paying attention.
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post Fri 8th December 2006, 1:03am
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QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 7th December 2006, 4:28pm) *

SLIMVIRGIN MASSIVE HYPOCRISY ALERT


And in other news, SUN CONTINUES TO RISE IN THE EAST

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QUOTE(gomi @ Fri 8th December 2006, 1:03am) *

QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 7th December 2006, 4:28pm) *

SLIMVIRGIN MASSIVE HYPOCRISY ALERT


And in other news, SUN CONTINUES TO RISE IN THE EAST


This just in: SMOKING MAY LEAD TO CANCER
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gomi   Rachel Marsden: The Fundamental Schizophrenia of BLP   Thu 30th November 2006, 8:11pm
Somey   SlimVirgin might know Rachel Marsden personally. T...   Thu 30th November 2006, 8:54pm
gomi   Though Coulter's getting a little pigeon-toed...   Thu 30th November 2006, 9:09pm
Kato   As for Jimbo, he was once photographed with Ann C...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 12:18am
Somey   ...when Horseback riding becomes a way of life? He...   Thu 30th November 2006, 9:23pm
gomi   ...when Horseback riding becomes a way of life? H...   Thu 30th November 2006, 9:45pm
Somey   Hmm. I'd forgotten about her... I just feel re...   Thu 30th November 2006, 10:33pm
Somey   Okay, before we get too carried away here, let...   Thu 30th November 2006, 11:09pm
guy   I thought the problem was that most of what she ob...   Fri 1st December 2006, 10:26am
Somey   I thought the problem was that most of what she ob...   Fri 1st December 2006, 4:08pm
taiwopanfob   One of the complainants -- and a defender of Marsd...   Fri 1st December 2006, 6:43pm
Somey   It might be interesting to see if Wikitruth.info d...   Sat 2nd December 2006, 4:03am
Somey   News Flash! Wikipedia now [i]officially has a...   Mon 4th December 2006, 7:42pm
Somey   SLIMVIRGIN MASSIVE HYPOCRISY ALERT http://en.wiki...   Fri 8th December 2006, 12:28am
gomi   [b]SLIMVIRGIN MASSIVE HYPOCRISY ALERT And in ot...   Fri 8th December 2006, 1:03am
Ior   [quote name='Somey' post='18680' date='Thu 7th De...   Sun 10th December 2006, 8:13am
Somey   Really? I had no idea it did that! Sorry, I g...   Fri 8th December 2006, 1:19am
gomi   Sorry, just yankin' yer chain ... Now, to add...   Fri 8th December 2006, 6:45am
jorge   Sorry, just yankin' yer chain ... Now, to ad...   Fri 8th December 2006, 9:49am
Somey   Sorry, just yankin' yer chain ... Don't wo...   Fri 8th December 2006, 4:16pm
AV Roe   Sorry, just yankin' yer chain ... Now, to ad...   Sat 9th December 2006, 10:48pm
Herschelkrustofsky   Before BLP, there was the "Chip Berlet except...   Mon 11th December 2006, 4:00pm
Jonny Cache   Too busy to look up the diffs right now, but if yo...   Mon 11th December 2006, 4:22pm
Herschelkrustofsky   Of course, it's hardly worth our trouble noti...   Mon 11th December 2006, 10:54pm
Kato   ...time to re-cast our eyes over this old thread, ...   Sat 1st March 2008, 5:36am
Kato   This article gives a basic Jimbo Wales / Rachel Ma...   Sat 1st March 2008, 6:33am
Derktar   There's a flurry of JoshuaZ activity as well.   Sat 1st March 2008, 6:36am
Kato   I guess it was this type of thing JzG was ordered ...   Sat 1st March 2008, 6:55am
Doc glasgow   I've just removed badly sourced salacious alle...   Sat 1st March 2008, 12:19pm
thekohser   I've just removed badly sourced salacious all...   Sat 1st March 2008, 12:50pm
Doc glasgow   Aren't you confusing "biographies" ...   Sat 1st March 2008, 12:57pm
badlydrawnjeff   You should not have to be Jimmy, or sleep with Ji...   Sat 1st March 2008, 1:20pm
thekohser   For the record (and I think my record is reasonab...   Sat 1st March 2008, 1:26pm
Daniel Brandt   You should not have to be Jimmy, or sleep with J...   Sat 1st March 2008, 1:34pm
UseOnceAndDestroy   For the record (and I think my record is reasonab...   Sat 1st March 2008, 1:41pm
UseOnceAndDestroy   [quote name='Doc glasgow' post='82401' date='Sat ...   Sun 2nd March 2008, 10:56pm
Derktar   Hey, how about [url=http://mashable.com]http://ma...   Sun 2nd March 2008, 11:03pm
UseOnceAndDestroy   [quote name='UseOnceAndDestroy' post='82770' date...   Sun 2nd March 2008, 11:07pm
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One   [quote name='dogbiscuit' post='82780' date='Sun 2...   Sun 2nd March 2008, 11:49pm
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UseOnceAndDestroy   [quote name='UseOnceAndDestroy' post='82419' date...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 12:11am
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UseOnceAndDestroy   [quote name='UseOnceAndDestroy' post='82933' date...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:01pm
thekohser   He sure is - doing the only thing he can, [url=ht...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:20pm
Moulton   Every living person should be able to expect eithe...   Sat 1st March 2008, 4:02pm
Jonny Cache   This persistent failure to prevent, avoid, or rem...   Sat 1st March 2008, 4:08pm
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Jonny Cache   Haven't been able to follow all this, but thos...   Sat 1st March 2008, 3:53pm
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Jonny Cache   Do you mean to tell me (and this committee) that ...   Sat 1st March 2008, 4:22pm
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Kato   JoshuaZ writes http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.p...   Sat 1st March 2008, 11:00pm
guy   Is he seriously suggesting that JzG, living in Re...   Sun 2nd March 2008, 12:19am
WordBomb   For your collective sleuthing enjoyment, I've ...   Sun 2nd March 2008, 12:29am
guy   So by far the main editor is Bucketsofg (264 edits...   Sun 2nd March 2008, 12:41am
WordBomb   70.25.152.39 = Rachel Marsden 70.25.91.205 = Ceaur...   Sun 2nd March 2008, 12:47am
Derktar   70.25.152.39 = Rachel Marsden 70.25.91.205 = Ceau...   Sun 2nd March 2008, 12:55am
Heat   Ceraurus and Arthur Ellis are both Journalism prof...   Sun 2nd March 2008, 1:49am
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Peter Damian   the temptation to post an edited version of this ...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 7:13pm
Giano   [quote name='Giano' post='83021' date='Mon 3rd Ma...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 7:43pm
AB   Picking a mistress is rather like buying a horse,...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 7:45pm
Giano   Picking a mistress is rather like buying a horse...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 7:51pm
AB   [quote name='AB' post='83029' date='Mon 3rd March...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:04pm
Milton Roe   In the name of the Unforgettable Butterflies, sto...   Tue 4th March 2008, 3:29am
AB   In the name of the Unforgettable Butterflies, st...   Tue 4th March 2008, 11:49am
thekohser   Picking a mistress is rather like buying a horse...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:07pm
AB   [quote name='AB' post='83029' date='Mon 3rd March...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:11pm
Pumpkin Muffins   There are times when it hard not to feel some fo...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:04pm
Pumpkin Muffins   [quote name='Giano' post='83021' date='Mon 3rd Ma...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:31pm
No one of consequence   [quote name='Giano' post='83021' date='Mon 3rd M...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 10:29pm
Kato   No, you were right the first time. In the real w...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 11:14pm
Doc glasgow   Let's be clear. 1) I don't care who Jimbo...   Tue 4th March 2008, 12:03am
gomi   Let's be clear. ... The COI is bullshit. I ca...   Tue 4th March 2008, 12:54am
Doc glasgow   Let's be clear. ... The COI is bullshit. I c...   Tue 4th March 2008, 12:58am
gomi   Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's curr...   Tue 4th March 2008, 1:07am
dogbiscuit   Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's cur...   Tue 4th March 2008, 1:09am
jorge   Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's cu...   Tue 4th March 2008, 1:16am
Doc glasgow   /Sigh/, those who wish to see conspiracy, will alw...   Tue 4th March 2008, 1:23am
guy   But, I suppose you guys need your Emmanuel Goldst...   Tue 4th March 2008, 10:20am
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Kato   Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's cur...   Tue 4th March 2008, 1:24am
Ior   Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's cu...   Tue 4th March 2008, 2:53am
Kato   BLPs are not news aggregaters. Because it's n...   Tue 4th March 2008, 1:15am
GlassBeadGame   Let's be clear. 1) I don't care who Jimb...   Tue 4th March 2008, 2:20am
thekohser   Let's be clear. 1) ...Jimbo often asks OTRS ...   Tue 4th March 2008, 2:43am
AB   2) The COI is bullshit. I can't see anything ...   Tue 4th March 2008, 2:57am
Kato   The whole place is tragically hypocritical and inc...   Tue 4th March 2008, 3:15am
Heat   I know they are owned by the same outfit (Rupert M...   Mon 3rd March 2008, 8:45pm
dogbiscuit   Swiss Jimbo   Mon 3rd March 2008, 9:11pm
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Somey   What he said! Still, Giano could have just as...   Tue 4th March 2008, 5:51am
Miltopia   Maybe we could all have a lesson on what a "s...   Tue 4th March 2008, 7:27am
Moulton   Of all the news coverage, I thought the WiReD arti...   Tue 4th March 2008, 8:01am
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