Rachel Marsden: The Fundamental Schizophrenia of BLP Options

Still, Giano could have just as easily compared "picking a mistress" to choosing a good exercise bike, and it really wouldn't have changed the sentence's tone or meaning all that much.

An exercise bike? What, so if he breaks the her by crashing into a
rock or something, he can just throw her away and get another?

Actually, that does sound like just the sort of thing a number of
guys I've been with would do.

*bursts into tears*

What he said!

Still, Giano could have just as easily compared "picking a mistress" to choosing a good exercise bike, and it really wouldn't have changed the sentence's tone or meaning all that much.

What's more, I know lots of women who have an enormous amount of respect for exercise bikes.

Of course, every time *I* choose a mistress, I get the same reaction, which is basically "who the hell are you?" followed by threats to get a so-called "restraining order." Sheesh!

Oh come on, I don't remember people complaining when Giano was compared to a horse.

Seriously, you guys way overstate Jimbo's current influence. You've obviously all been banned so long that you're out of touch. Keep up with it. Jimbo's influence on en.wp is marginal in the extreme, and diminishing by the day.

Wales waning influence –

(1) Wales is a member of the WMF board, albeit with the weird Chairman Emeritus status; he is far more well known than any other Board member and no Wiki editors or admins quote any of the other Board members as an authority when faced with a dispute.

(2) Wales claims that “in Wikipedia, I work closely with a team called 'OTRS”. No other Board member makes this claim. Is Wales, lying about his role in Wikipedia or does he in fact have an exceptional influence over how contacts made with WMF are handled, including those specifically related to Wikipedia BLPs ?

(3) Wales is both a WMF Board member and an Officer(?) of the Wikia Foundation placing him in a unique position of influence.

If Wales is directly involved in contacts related to BLPs, he is uniquely placed to engage with individuals who may have interests which coincide, or which are at variance with Wikipedia or Wikia Corps. (the two not necessarilly being the same). This is an incredibly powerful position which screams COI. Only when the rest of the WMF Board are seen to act in respect of this COI could anyone seriously claim that Wales’ influence has in any way been reduced.

AF

Let's be clear.

1) I don't care who Jimbo has sex with - so he may be a letch, did I expect more?

Given the WP entry appears to be excluding everything but that element, the statement is unconvincing.

2) The COI is bullshit.

When he thinks he's in private, Jimbo appears not to agree.

3) The story is certainly news now. Not so much because it is sex, but because Mr Wiki (apparently) had the ill-judgement to dump neo-celebrity on wiki and she (predictably) retaliated (on e-bay). That's news that not even the London Times can resist. And this story probably has legs yet. It will almost certainly end up in Jimmy's bio. But (and this is something I fight for on many bios) BLPs are not news aggregaters. Because it's newsworthy this week doesn't make it encyclopedic. Whether this story has any durable importance in terms of recording Wales's bio, remains to be seen.

So for the record, we've learned its an acceptable source once its in the Times. Even if the Times parrots the story from the other sites with no discernable independent investigation or fact checking.

Even if the Times parrots the story from the other sites with no discernable independent investigation or fact checking.

Original research!

There are now independently written stories in several newspapers. I saw one in the San Jose Mercury and another in the Sydney Morning Herald.

This post has been edited by Moulton: Wed 5th March 2008, 1:34pm

There are now independently written stories in several newspapers. I saw one in the San Jose Mercury and another in the Sydney Morning Herald.

The story has been carried on four continents by my count. Any sign of Africa or South America yet?

San Jose Mercury News: Wikipedia founder dogged by tawdry tales online

The "Wiki quickie," as one headline dubbed it

Ha!

This post has been edited by Heat: Wed 5th March 2008, 1:46pm

San Jose Mercury News: Wikipedia founder dogged by tawdry tales online

The "Wiki quickie," as one headline dubbed it

Ha!

I guess that when one is a former porn dealer, one doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.

Not that "one" deserves it. But I'm just sayin'.

Let's be clear.

1) I don't care who Jimbo has sex with - so he may be a letch, did I expect more?

Given the WP entry appears to be excluding everything but that element, the statement is unconvincing.

2) The COI is bullshit.

When he thinks he's in private, Jimbo appears not to agree.

3) The story is certainly news now. Not so much because it is sex, but because Mr Wiki (apparently) had the ill-judgement to dump neo-celebrity on wiki and she (predictably) retaliated (on e-bay). That's news that not even the London Times can resist. And this story probably has legs yet. It will almost certainly end up in Jimmy's bio. But (and this is something I fight for on many bios) BLPs are not news aggregaters. Because it's newsworthy this week doesn't make it encyclopedic. Whether this story has any durable importance in terms of recording Wales's bio, remains to be seen.

So for the record, we've learned its an acceptable source once its in the Times. Even if the Times parrots the story from the other sites with no discernable independent investigation or fact checking.

Uh....really for the record...it is ok for the co-founder of Wikipedia to be a role model for the creeps of the world...how 6th grade...

and what a shame...I feel sorry for Jimbo's wife and any offspring that he may have helped to produce...

for all of the editors out there that work on the project thinking that it is a real job


In a few years, people will look at the piles of hardware in their garages and wonder what they did with their lives!

What a waste of valuable time.

But, I suppose you guys need your Emmanuel Goldstein to hate.

Emmanuel Goldstein was completely out of power; the correct analogy is with Larry Sanger.

Still, if you think Jimbo is Emmanuel Goldstein , who is Big Brother?

That's a perfect analogy. Goldstein was presumably meant to be Trotsky, and was given such an obviously Jewish name because Trotsky was Jewish. Sanger is too, although the Cabal wish to conceal that.

But, I suppose you guys need your Emmanuel Goldstein to hate.

Emmanuel Goldstein was completely out of power; the correct analogy is with Larry Sanger.

Still, if you think Jimbo is Emmanuel Goldstein , who is Big Brother?

gah, if any of you had actually read the damn book, you'd know that [spoiler]Emmanuel Goldstein was a straw man[/spoiler].

Still, Giano could have just as easily compared "picking a mistress" to choosing a good exercise bike, and it really wouldn't have changed the sentence's tone or meaning all that much.

An exercise bike? What, so if he breaks the her by crashing into a
rock or something, he can just throw her away and get another?

#REDIRECT [[Stationary bicycle]]

gah, if any of you had actually read the damn book, you'd know that [spoiler]Emmanuel Goldstein was a straw man[/spoiler].

I'm with Random832 on this one. I didn't get the impression from the book that Goldstein actually existed in any meaningful way.

During the Attack Sites RfAr I compared the role of WordBomb to that of Goldstein...a sort of shorthand for everything the Cabal existed to protect us from.

I like that Marsden gal. She's got spunk! Literally. Jimmy's spunk. I saw it on Ebay. Ewwwwww.

This post has been edited by Piperdown: Mon 10th March 2008, 11:49pm

Actually, that does sound like just the sort of thing a number of guys I've been with would do.

Well, exactly!

I mean (not to get too back on topic or anything), if we grant that Jimbo had been dating Rachel Marsden for several months prior to the events that precipitated their breakup, then Jimbo did just that, did he not? The "rock" that he/they "crashed into" was his supposed reputation for integrity as the co-founder of Wikipedia, which their relationship essentially threatened to expose as a sham (not that we need further proof).

As for me, I'm one of those guys who generally insists on not being the one to initiate a breakup. At least I used to be that way, until the Bush Administration came into power - at which point I realized that the whole "social contract" thing is basically a joke.