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> My email to SlimVirgin, my guess is that nothing will happen
Daniel Brandt
post Sun 24th December 2006, 9:08pm
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December 24, 2006

Dear Sarah:

I am looking for a Florida-based attorney to negotiate with the Wikimedia Foundation to take down my biography. If this fails, I plan to file an invasion-of-privacy lawsuit against the Foundation. Considering the fact that all the Talk pages are also made available to the search engines, I may include a defamation-of-character complaint in the suit. My main interest in litigation is to establish in a Florida court that Section 230 of the U.S. Communications Decency Act does not provide immunity to the Foundation, due to the fact that the Foundation's entire structure is designed to moderate the content on Wikipedia. I will argue that because of this, the Foundation functions as a publisher rather than a service provider. Only service providers are immune under Section 230.

I appreciate the fact that you supported my request to delete the article in October 2005, after we worked on it for a week and were unable to reach agreement. You warned me that you lacked the power to make the deletion stick, if some other administrators disagreed. This is exactly what happened.

I also appreciate your support of Linuxbeak's effort in December 2005 to move the content into other relevant articles on Wikipedia, so that most of the content would still exist, but not be featured in one Wikipedia article under my name. This effort was one that Linuxbeak and I agreed to at the time, but which failed due to a lack of support. I deleted hivemind.html as Linuxbeak made his effort, but then restored it when his effort failed. As you can see, the hivemind.html page is much larger now and also has small photos of most of the perpetrators.

The last meaningful AfD on my bio was concluded on April 9, 2006. Now I am asking you to initiate another AfD. This is something only a major administrator can do, because minor administrators will intervene on the grounds of "Speedy Keep."

I believe that one last meaningful AfD for my biography is warranted before this issue escalates further, and I hope you agree with me. If the article gets deleted, I will take down the hivemind.html page on www.wikipedia-watch.org (but not the hive2.html page), and will also take down the findchat.html page, the 1,545 chat log files that are linked from there, and the chat search engine.


Thank you,
Daniel Brandt
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Daniel Brandt   My email to SlimVirgin   Sun 24th December 2006, 9:08pm
JohnA   I think they'll regard this as wikilawyering u...   Mon 25th December 2006, 8:11pm
Nathan   Good move. To me, this is more than fair - though ...   Tue 26th December 2006, 9:43am
Daniel Brandt   Thanks, I agree that this is a reasonable compromi...   Tue 26th December 2006, 4:25pm
thebainer   So be it. I'm pretty close to convincing a co...   Thu 28th December 2006, 1:21pm
Somey   I for one would very much welcome a test case on S...   Thu 28th December 2006, 3:38pm
Daniel Brandt   [quote name='Daniel Brandt' post='19485' date='We...   Thu 28th December 2006, 5:47pm
anon1234   The Florida jury that awarded $11.3 million...   Thu 28th December 2006, 6:26pm
Somey   Can I invest in your lawsuit too? If I pony of sa...   Thu 28th December 2006, 6:35pm
nobs   My letters and faxes to Jimmy Wales, Brad Patrick,...   Sat 3rd February 2007, 11:16pm
poopooball   pehraps slimmy is reading.   Wed 27th December 2006, 7:57pm
blissyu2   pehraps slimmy is reading. Why would she read t...   Thu 28th December 2006, 3:53am
JohnA   There's not a chance of Slimmy prevailing, esp...   Wed 27th December 2006, 8:40pm
Somey   It's overbroad, and could conceivably get a la...   Wed 27th December 2006, 11:13pm
guy   Obviously, that won't work. For example, whi...   Thu 28th December 2006, 9:51am
JohnA   Any competent lawyer would then look at the acti...   Thu 28th December 2006, 11:13pm
guy   I'm not sure that Daniel Brandt would benefit...   Fri 29th December 2006, 10:14am
JohnA   [quote name='JohnA' post='19631' date='Thu 28th D...   Fri 29th December 2006, 11:01am
Poetlister   Then I'd direct the judge to the fifth paragr...   Fri 29th December 2006, 2:50pm
Daniel Brandt   I am an accountability activist, and have been sin...   Fri 29th December 2006, 12:03pm
coriaceous   The fact that I have continued to identify some W...   Wed 7th February 2007, 1:27am
Somey   Welcome to the "non-lurking area" of the...   Wed 7th February 2007, 4:19am
coriaceous   Welcome to the "non-lurking area" of th...   Wed 7th February 2007, 10:09pm
Poetlister   Compelling admins to be publically identified wou...   Wed 7th February 2007, 11:10pm
Somey   How do you enforce that? Assuming the principle is...   Thu 8th February 2007, 1:10am
everyking   Welcome to the "non-lurking area" of t...   Thu 8th February 2007, 11:49am
Jonny Cache   I don't understand why you think identificati...   Thu 8th February 2007, 12:06pm
everyking   [quote name='everyking' post='22380' date='Thu 8t...   Thu 8th February 2007, 12:12pm
Jonny Cache   Apologies for my unsound judgment. I was just tal...   Thu 8th February 2007, 1:05pm
a view from the hive   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...polic...   Sun 31st December 2006, 6:38am
Hamedog   Got a reply yet from Wikipedia? Would like to hear...   Sun 31st December 2006, 6:53am
Daniel Brandt   Wow, look here, on Day 3, I'm a case study at ...   Thu 4th January 2007, 7:58pm
nobs   Wow, look here, on [b]Day 3, I'm a case study...   Thu 4th January 2007, 8:08pm
nobs   Dear Sarah: I am looking for a Florida-based atto...   Fri 5th January 2007, 5:54am
Herschelkrustofsky   So the question is, what WP "policies...   Fri 5th January 2007, 3:06pm
Somey   Nobs, I'm sure your heart's in the right p...   Fri 5th January 2007, 6:41am
the fieryangel   I think that the main problem with Nobs' solut...   Fri 5th January 2007, 9:20am
Nathan   This reminds me of something a lawyer told me ...   Tue 16th January 2007, 2:23am
guy   This reminds me of something a lawyer told me ...   Tue 16th January 2007, 12:35pm
Nathan   That's another good point. Yes, it's a q...   Tue 16th January 2007, 6:20pm
Daniel Brandt   The main thing for me is to get Section 230 past a...   Fri 5th January 2007, 1:21pm
nobs   ...If the case encourages discussion in the press...   Fri 5th January 2007, 8:58pm
Daniel Brandt   What is at issue is, (A ) does Brandt actually wa...   Fri 5th January 2007, 9:47pm
nobs   [quote name='nobs' post='20057' date='Fri 5th Jan...   Fri 5th January 2007, 10:17pm
Daniel Brandt   SlimVirgin has just informed me that she is unable...   Sat 6th January 2007, 5:58am
anon1234   If she lacks the power to help me, this means tha...   Sat 6th January 2007, 7:05am
nobs   From reading all this it appears Mr. Brandt's ...   Sat 6th January 2007, 7:16pm
anon1234   appears to be blackmail, which further can be use...   Sun 7th January 2007, 4:08am
nobs   The goal should not be the destruction of Wikiped...   Sun 7th January 2007, 9:06pm
Jonny Cache   [quote name='anon1234' post='20126' date='Sat 6th...   Tue 9th January 2007, 6:06pm
Daniel Brandt   As far as the [b]Norms Of The Established Society...   Tue 9th January 2007, 7:33pm
Jonny Cache   As far as the [b]Norms Of The Established Societ...   Tue 9th January 2007, 7:42pm
nobs   Part I -- Navigating flame wars of the Daniel Bran...   Sun 14th January 2007, 8:37pm
Daniel Brandt   The notorious [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi...   Sun 7th January 2007, 4:13pm
Jonny Cache   I have never understood why many admins point to ...   Sun 7th January 2007, 4:48pm
Somey   Agreed, and those are some very good points. The o...   Sat 6th January 2007, 7:47am
bonron   slimvirgin AT gmail.com cc: info AT wikimedia.org...   Sat 6th January 2007, 12:46pm
Somey   You're not trying to imply that Berlet put her...   Sun 14th January 2007, 8:56pm
nobs   Part II -- Chris Arabia uses "fellow left-win...   Sun 14th January 2007, 9:42pm
Daniel Brandt   Chip Berlet wormed his way into the Wikipedia powe...   Thu 25th January 2007, 4:59pm
nobs   When I was working with SlimVirgin in good faith i...   Thu 25th January 2007, 9:52pm
nobs   Looks like the Jimbo slam at Brandt has been excis...   Fri 2nd February 2007, 3:32am
Daniel Brandt   Looks like the Jimbo slam at Brandt has been exci...   Fri 2nd February 2007, 4:16pm
Somey   On the Talk page, Squeaky compares me to Jesus. Th...   Fri 2nd February 2007, 5:08pm
Somey   So, Brad Patrick is no longer the Interim Executiv...   Mon 5th February 2007, 10:47pm
Daniel Brandt   Anthere says at http://lists.wikimedia.org/piperma...   Tue 6th February 2007, 1:00am
Somey   I always thought one of the main duties of a gener...   Tue 6th February 2007, 7:07am
nobs   Well the saga continues. And no conspiracy would ...   Tue 6th February 2007, 7:53pm
Somey   ...it's now patently obvious they are looking ...   Tue 6th February 2007, 9:13pm
nobs   [quote name='nobs' post='22262' date='Tue 6th Febr...   Tue 6th February 2007, 11:34pm
gomi   Who is Sullivan & Cromwell?Of more concern to...   Wed 7th February 2007, 7:07am
nobs   Outline of malicious intent ( a ) SlimVirgin said...   Wed 7th February 2007, 9:36pm
gomi   Are there any members here who are Wikipedia admin...   Thu 8th February 2007, 1:17am
Somey   Are there any members here who are Wikipedia admin...   Thu 8th February 2007, 4:03am
Somey   Hey now, you guys are going off on a tangent here....   Thu 8th February 2007, 3:49pm
Jonny Cache   Hey now, you guys are going off on a tangent here...   Thu 8th February 2007, 4:10pm
nobs   ... these people are now "notable" enou...   Thu 8th February 2007, 5:43pm
Somey   Soon people will discover [i]no living person wan...   Thu 8th February 2007, 6:18pm
nobs   You don't really believe that though, do you?I...   Thu 8th February 2007, 7:04pm
Jonny Cache   Juries will not recognize the imaginary distinctio...   Sat 17th February 2007, 2:45am


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