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> Brandt's article deleted, undeleted, stubbed, ad infinitum..., The BLP war era continues
Alex
post Fri 23rd February 2007, 4:36pm
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So it's gone now. Deleted by Yanksox, speedily endorsed by our friend Gaillimh. Three cheers all round? cool.gif
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post Sat 3rd March 2007, 5:53am
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Shall I interpret this to mean you don't see anything positive developing out of this situation? sad.gif

Thing is, this is the point at which someone who's a real leader, a true visionary, someone with real guts would stand up and say, "this is my website, I'm ultimately responsible for what goes on here, and I'm going to put a stop to this nonsense. This is over, done, end of story." Someone with the power to make it stick, too (sorry, Yanksox, though it was a good try). Of course, that would also mean deleting and salting the article, and possibly forbidding any further mention of Brandt anywhere on Wikipedia.

But Wikipedia doesn't have anyone like that, do they?

That's really what's so utterly tragic about this whole situation. People are going to fight for their privacy until their dying breath, and not just people whose privacy has been compromised like Brandt's has. Anyone who cares about it is going to keep fighting, and that's not going to change. But all Wikipedia has to do is have one of a thousand admins click a delete link, and then just get everyone to STFU about it. But it's that last bit that really does them in - they just can't bring themselves to do that one little thing, because then there'd be a huge cacophony of whining from... who, exactly? Nobody knows. It's just really sad, the way they're allowing all that work, put in by all those well-meaning people, to be marginalized and pissed away like this. Absolutely tragic.

They keep talking about a "slippery slope." Well, y'know, at some point they have to realize that they're not at the top of that slope and trying to keep from sliding down. They have to realize they're at the bottom of the slope, and they'll never get back up that slope as long as they keep peeing all over it.

That analogy kinda sucked, didn't it? I'm going to have to work on that one.
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post Sat 3rd March 2007, 7:04am
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Look, for you all know, there's wackos on Usenet saying all sorts of rotten stuff about you. Who knows? Who cares? For a brief time, Google had a button that would search Usenet, but I can't find it anymore if it's still there. Most of the so-called "culture" of this cult came from Usenet -- so much so that Larry Sanger thought it was a big innovation to use real names, when all the academic discussion lists that I've known or heard about never thought to operate any other way. The more light we shine on this slimy critter, the sooner it will jump back into its flaming pit. Who cares if it takes The One Ring with it?

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Alex   Brandt's article deleted, undeleted, stubbed, ad infinitum...   Fri 23rd February 2007, 4:36pm
gomi   Bravo. Now I want a box seat for the inevitable w...   Fri 23rd February 2007, 4:53pm
Alex   Bravo. Now I want a box seat for the inevitable ...   Fri 23rd February 2007, 4:55pm
Somey   ...I expect it'll produce a similar result. Si...   Fri 23rd February 2007, 5:12pm
taiwopanfob   I think there's actually reason for optimism ...   Fri 23rd February 2007, 5:42pm
thekohser   This is an excellent opportunity for Wales to ac...   Fri 23rd February 2007, 8:26pm
Anonymouse   Now it's on WP:DRV, and staying deleted. Here...   Fri 23rd February 2007, 5:41pm
No one of consequence   Well, so far they're holding a clusterfuck ove...   Fri 23rd February 2007, 5:45pm
Unrepentant Vandal   Well, so far they're holding a clusterfuck ov...   Fri 23rd February 2007, 6:25pm
Alkivar   Look Jimbo wading in is probably a bad idea... we ...   Fri 23rd February 2007, 8:35pm
anon1234   The best thing that could happen is a public disco...   Fri 23rd February 2007, 9:10pm
a view from the hive   The best thing that could happen is a public disc...   Sat 24th February 2007, 12:38am
LamontStormstar   Brandt's notable for mainly that Seigler(sp?) ...   Sat 24th February 2007, 2:14am
Somey   Brandt's notable for mainly that Seigler(sp?) ...   Sat 24th February 2007, 2:35am
a view from the hive   Brandt's notable for mainly that Seigler(sp?)...   Sat 24th February 2007, 2:59am
thebainer   [quote name='LamontStormstar' post='23493' date='...   Mon 26th February 2007, 7:32am
Somey   I dunno, Stephen... There seems to be almost no po...   Mon 26th February 2007, 5:02pm
Somey   But what about the time in 1997 when he balanced 1...   Sat 24th February 2007, 4:09am
a view from the hive   But what about the time in 1997 when he balanced ...   Sat 24th February 2007, 4:13am
Somey   Try the truth, it looks better :) Do you have reli...   Sat 24th February 2007, 5:21am
a view from the hive   Try the truth, it looks better :) Do you have rel...   Sat 24th February 2007, 6:27am
the fieryangel   Regardless of HOW the article was deleted, the fac...   Sat 24th February 2007, 11:01am
guy   Wikipedia tries to contain only factual informati...   Sat 24th February 2007, 11:33am
Herschelkrustofsky   Wikipedia tries to contain only [b]factual inform...   Sat 24th February 2007, 4:04pm
guy   No doubt I'll be accused of partisanship, but ...   Mon 26th February 2007, 8:29pm
Somey   No doubt I'll be accused of partisanship, but ...   Mon 26th February 2007, 9:24pm
Somey   As predicted, the article's back, with the DRV...   Wed 28th February 2007, 6:47pm
Daniel Brandt   The thing that strikes me about this DRV, as well ...   Wed 28th February 2007, 8:14pm
Truth Man   It's a video game, and those who happen to je...   Thu 1st March 2007, 3:48am
badlydrawnjeff   I'm pleasantly surprised, even if it's onl...   Wed 28th February 2007, 8:20pm
gomi   Doc Glasgow has quit, citing in part the Brandt wh...   Wed 28th February 2007, 10:20pm
thebainer   As I've often done, I just want to redundantl...   Thu 1st March 2007, 12:27am
a view from the hive   I plan to close it. I seem to do fairly well at c...   Thu 1st March 2007, 1:01am
Daniel Brandt   I plan to close it. I seem to do fairly well at c...   Thu 1st March 2007, 1:49am
everyking   As I've often done, I just want to redundant...   Thu 1st March 2007, 7:10am
Daniel Brandt   you should set a percentage figure in advance for...   Thu 1st March 2007, 7:19am
a view from the hive   [quote name='everyking' post='23845' date='Thu 1s...   Sun 4th March 2007, 4:23am
Cobalt   Keep Per SlimVirgin! --Kevin Murray 01:19, 3 ...   Sun 4th March 2007, 5:33am
thebainer   Due to the views you're expressing in this po...   Thu 1st March 2007, 2:26pm
everyking   Due to the views you're expressing in this p...   Thu 1st March 2007, 3:14pm
Somey   It's probably pointless to discuss this like i...   Thu 1st March 2007, 5:37am
Jonny Cache   ... slim majority ... Good one !!! ...   Thu 1st March 2007, 5:44am
Daniel Brandt   How many votes in a slim majority ??? One, althou...   Thu 1st March 2007, 6:05am
a view from the hive   How many votes in a slim majority ??? One, altho...   Thu 1st March 2007, 6:50am
JohnA   If the Daniel Brandt article has been deleted then...   Thu 1st March 2007, 3:33pm
guy   If the Daniel Brandt article has been deleted the...   Thu 1st March 2007, 6:01pm
Jonny Cache   [quote name='JohnA' post='23863' date='Thu 1st Ma...   Fri 2nd March 2007, 5:06pm
Somey   The [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title...   Fri 2nd March 2007, 6:25pm
Jonny Cache   The [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit...   Fri 2nd March 2007, 6:54pm
JohnA   I find myself wondering what the point of getting ...   Fri 2nd March 2007, 9:58pm
Daniel Brandt   You should see what they're pulling now with m...   Fri 2nd March 2007, 10:51pm
Jonny Cache   You should [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki...   Fri 2nd March 2007, 11:01pm
Somey   Yes, this is typical, even classic, Wikipedia. Evi...   Sat 3rd March 2007, 2:05am
Daniel Brandt   Somey, that was a brilliant summary. I guess it pa...   Sat 3rd March 2007, 4:35am
Jonny Cache   Somey, that was a brilliant summary. I guess it p...   Sat 3rd March 2007, 5:06am
Alkivar   For whatever its worth Mr. Brandt... When this w...   Sat 3rd March 2007, 9:28am
Daniel Brandt   For whatever its worth Mr. Brandt... When this ...   Sat 3rd March 2007, 1:23pm
Somey   I just discovered that SlimVirgin is [url=http://e...   Sat 3rd March 2007, 6:36pm
Jonny Cache   I just discovered that SlimVirgin is resurrecting...   Sat 3rd March 2007, 7:24pm
The Joy   The only way Mr. Brandt's article will be dele...   Sun 4th March 2007, 12:25am
Daniel Brandt   This AfD was frontloaded with mysterious sockpuppe...   Sun 4th March 2007, 5:45am
Somey   This AfD was frontloaded with mysterious sockpuppe...   Sun 4th March 2007, 6:24am
Cobalt   My thoughts against this theory are, would you h...   Sun 4th March 2007, 6:03am
Anonymouse   Someone's offering a bounty for FA status on i...   Mon 5th March 2007, 1:27am
Somey   Someone's offering a bounty for FA status on i...   Mon 5th March 2007, 2:03am
Anonymouse   Someone's offering a bounty for FA status on ...   Tue 6th March 2007, 1:12am
Yanksox   Someone's offering a bounty for FA status on ...   Tue 6th March 2007, 12:22am
Anonymouse   [quote name='Anonymouse' post='24142' date='Mon 5...   Tue 6th March 2007, 1:23am
Somey   [b]FULL DISCLOSURE: I AM INDEED abeg92. :ph34r: ...   Tue 6th March 2007, 1:55am
Anonymouse   [quote name='Anonymouse' post='24260' date='Mon 5...   Tue 6th March 2007, 12:04pm
Truth Man   [quote name='Somey' post='24266' date='Mon 5th Ma...   Tue 6th March 2007, 12:51pm
Somey   I voted keep because of the ungodly huge list of s...   Tue 6th March 2007, 3:59pm
Daniel Brandt   For the record, less than an hour ago I added this...   Sun 11th March 2007, 9:25pm
Alex   Six minutes later, JoshuaZ deleted my comment and...   Sun 11th March 2007, 9:31pm
Yanksox   [quote name='Daniel Brandt' post='24810' date='Su...   Sun 11th March 2007, 9:57pm
Jonny Cache   For the record, less than an hour ago I added thi...   Sun 11th March 2007, 10:38pm
Somey   No. His personal opinion is irrelevant, the AfD is...   Sun 11th March 2007, 10:32pm


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