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> The Essjay Media Watch, Split from "Who is Essjay?"
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This is a regularly updated post tracking all media coverage.

Mainstream newspapers:
  1. Boston Globe's Brainiac: Wiki-democracy (blog?)
Online news organizations:
  1. Radar Online: Ode to Wikipedia Riddled with Errors
  2. CNet: Wikipedia 101, Check your sources - 3 comments
  3. The Inquirer: Wikipedia 'expert' lied about qualifications
  4. Slashdot: Academic Credentials and Wikiality - 400+ comments
  5. iTWire: Wikipedia, did one of its admins lie?
  6. Chronicle of Higher Education: Wikipedia, did one of its admins lie? (magazine for academics)
  7. The Register: Bogus Wikipedia Prof. was blessed then promoted
  8. BitTech News: Wikipedia manager lied about background (blog?)
  9. Tech Dirt: Does The Mistaken Identity Of A Wikipedia Editor Reflect Worse On Wikipedia... Or The New Yorker? (blog?)
Social aggregators:
  1. TechMeme: What The New Yorker Article Fraud Tells Us About Wikipedia - 7 blog posts
  2. Digg: Jimmy Wales defends a massive liar - 1000+ diggs (front page), 80+ comments
Blog coverage: (red= noted Wikipedians/Former Wikipedians) (blue = prominent commentator)
  1. Rough Type: Never trust an avatar - 5 comments
  2. Valleywag: Wikipedia expert fabricates his own bio - 2 comments
  3. Freakonomics: Wikipedia Oops - 22 comments, 1 repost
  4. Seth Finkelstein's Infothought: Wikipedia New Yorker Article Misrepresentation Exposed - 5 comments
  5. Seth Finkelstein's Infothought: What The New Yorker Article Fraud Tells Us About Wikipedia - 19 comments
  6. Seth Finkelstein's Infothought: Jimmy Wales Defends Wikipedia New Yorker Article Fabricator - 2 commends
  7. Hacking Cough: On Wikipedia, nobody's sure you're a prof - 2 commends
  8. MetaFilter: On Wikipedia, no one knows you're a 24-year-old with no credentials - 63 comments
  9. XODP: Respected Wikipedian Lies to the Press - 2 comments
  10. Nathan: Wikipedia expert fabricates his own bio
  11. yesh omrim: Fact checking a fact checker
  12. Bizsolutionsplus: Trusting Wikipedia Could Make You Stupid - 2 comments
  13. Dave Copeland: A new kind of Anthem
  14. Rex Hammock: A Wikipedia oops? Or, a New Yorker oops? - 1 commend
  15. Regret the Error: On the Internet, nobody knows you're a 24 year-old with no advanced degrees
  16. WebProNews: Wikipedia Source For 'New Yorker' A Fraud
  17. Mathew Ingram: Jimmy Wales is wrong about Essjay
  18. TechNudge: Wikid, Wikidpedia
  19. BlogWorldExpo: Wikipedia Founder Has “No Problem” with Fraud - 4 comments
  20. Larry Sanger's Citizendium: Wikipedia Firmly Supports your Right to Identity Fraud
  21. Larry Sanger's Citizendium: Our registration policy - how we check identities
  22. Kelly Martin's Nonbovine Ruminations: Larry Sanger proven right about Wikipedia
  23. Kelly Martin's Nonbovine Ruminations: More on certain fraudulent Wikipedians
  24. Kelly Martin's Nonbovine Ruminations: Why Jimmy Wales must dismiss Ryan Jordan from the ArbCom
  25. Cyde Weys Musings: How to deal with liars on Wikipedia?
  26. Cyde Weys Musings: More fallout over the Essjay scandal
  27. Musings of a Chicagoan: Wikireality and Reality Amusingly Collide
  28. Kottke: He's not a doctor, but he plays one on the web
  29. Roger Cadenhead's Workbench: Wikipedia Admin Loses His Religion
  30. Roger Cadenhead's Workbench: Wikipedia editor faces consequences
  31. SecretLondon: Wikipedia bullshitters
  32. infrogmation: I don't like this
  33. Memestreams: Wikipedia Source For 'New Yorker' A Fraud
  34. Applied Epistemology: The 24-year-old who cried "I'm a professor of theology"
  35. Maverick Philosopher: The Reliability of Wikipedia
  36. Jason Scott's ASCII: J.S. on Essjay (topic of a talk at upcoming notacon)
  37. Tech Liberation Front: Wikipedia Doesn’t Make You Coffee Either
  38. Will of the People: For Better or For Woes
  39. The Dog Killer: Fakeipedia
  40. DRLer: 学术身份谎言与维基百科
  41. MKemp's Balance: Wikipedia and Groucho Marx
  42. 300km North of Moscow: Wikipedia credentials put to the test
  43. Ζειν Ακινδύνως: Wikipedia, μια ακίνδυνη ιστορία
  44. Complete Geek: Pray for Essjay
  45. Phineas Gage Fan Club: The Good, the Bad, and the Wikipedia
March 3 blog coverage:
  1. Andrew Lih: Wikipedia Crisis in 60 Seconds
  2. Wikipedia Weekly: Essjay Special Espisode (Podcast)
  3. Kelly Martin's Nonbovine Ruminations: Jimbo Responds on Essjay
  4. Cyde Weys Musings: Jimbo Wales Asks Essjay to Resign
  5. Rough Type: Head Wikipedian
  6. Larry Sanger's Citizendium: Jimmy Wales Latest Response on the Essjay Situation
  7. XOPD: Credentialists and impostors
  8. Digital Rights Manifesto: Seth Finkelstein Hammers the Point Home
  9. WikiP: Jimmy Wales Has Diminished Weirdness of Essjay Scandal
  10. About Theology: Academic Credentials and Wikiality
  11. OR Blog: I Guess I should write about Ryan
  12. Planet KH: Truth as a Great Lie
  13. Slashdot: Wikipedia's Wales Reverses Decision on Problem Admin
  14. Facts Dat Are Interesting: Essjay OMG
  15. Jeff Milner: Jason Scott on Wikipedia Editor Essjay
  16. Andrew Lih: Essjay's Third Transgression
  17. Sassafrassin: The Peter Principle In Wiki Land
  18. WikiP: Andrew Lih Underscores Severity of the essjay case
  19. Nathan: Essjay's Third Transgression
  20. Gary Kirk: Essjay
March 4 blog coverage:
  1. Freakonomics: A Wikipedia Reversal
  2. Tales of Drudgery and Boredom: Retired
  3. IM2 | OQP: support in this matter was fully based on a lack of knowledge
  4. SecretLondon: Wikipedia update
  5. Angela Beesley: A Sad Loss
  6. XODP: Closure still lacking in Essjay scandal
  7. http://community.livejournal.com/wikipedians/105656.html
  8. DIGG: Citizendium slams Jimmy Wales apology of Essjay fraud sysop
  9. Kelly Martin's Nonbovine Ruminations: Essjay quits
  10. Burning Bird: Wikipedia Walking
  11. Grant's Rants: The new impermanence (slow return)
  12. TechLiberation: The Bizarre Chip on Nick Carr’s Shoulder
  13. Seth Finkelstein's Infothought: Jimmy Wales Reverses On New Yorker False Credentials, Asks Resignation
  14. Seth Finkelstein's Infothought: Wikipedia's Value System
  15. Seth Finkelstein's Infothought: New Yorker Article Fabricator Retires From Wikipedia
  16. WikiP: Essjay has retired from Wikipedia
  17. Seth Finkelstein's Infothought: New Yorker Wikipedia "Essjay" Fraud Aftermath
  18. Ultra Black Shadow: Essjay You're Fired
  19. Roger Cadenhead's Workbench: Jimmy Wales invites admin success
  20. Cyde Weys Musings: Essjay Quits Wikipedia
  21. Joe Duck: Sex, lies, videotape, and Wikipedia
  22. Lux et Veritas: Help wanted?
  23. Jason Scott's ASCII: Another Essjay Essay
  24. OmegaWiki: About Reputation and Education
  25. Science Roll: Overview of the recent serious wikipedia scandal
  26. Messages from the Outhouse: Wikipedia wallows in self pity and denial after resignation of admin
  27. What Really Happened: Wikipedia: Jimbo Wales backpeddles from EssJay scandal (link only)
March 5 coverage:
  1. New York Times: A Contributor to Wikipedia Has His Fictional Side <-- WOOT.
  2. DIGG: EssJay Resigns from Wikipedia
  3. http://community.livejournal.com/wikipedians/106157.html
  4. ZigZigger: Wikilinks
  5. Rex Hammock: Jimbo Wales decides faux-PhD should resign his “positions of trust” on Wikipedia
  6. Out of Egypt: the moral bankruptcy of wikipedia
  7. Freedom to Tinker: Fact check, The New Yorker versus Wikipedia
  8. German Wikipedia Courier: Wikipedia und der falsche Professor (Wikipedia Signpost Equivalent)

NOTE: There is way too much media coverage to list here now that the story exploded into the mainstream. More coverage than you want can be found here:

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post Sun 4th March 2007, 6:40pm
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Good on you to list Seth Finkelstein's blog here, he is a smart commentator and should be more widely read.

P.S. Are you color-blind? smile.gif You need to change the "blue" and "red" key next to the "blog coverage".

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post Sun 4th March 2007, 7:39pm
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another from Jason Scott: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000331.html
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post Sun 4th March 2007, 11:02pm
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Haven't you got your red and blue colourings the wrong way round?
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Angela Beesley has a one-sentence apologia for Ryan on her blog, followed by "I'll miss you, Ryan." There's a place for comments! Angela had dinner with Ryan and the cabal in San Francisco. Next to Jimbo and Gil, she probably knows as much about who knew what, and when they knew it, as anybody at Wikia. Send her a comment about how she should have the courage to describe what happened, so that all of us are in a better position to make recommendations for increased accountability at Wikipedia.
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post Mon 5th March 2007, 5:04am
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QUOTE(guy @ Sun 4th March 2007, 6:02pm) *

Haven't you got your red and blue colourings the wrong way round?


The color tag understands words like <color=blue> and <color=red>.

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New York Times: A Contributor to Wikipedia Has His Fictional Side <-- WOOT.

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In a blink, the wisdom of the crowd became the fury of the crowd. In the last few days, contributors to Wikipedia, the popular online encyclopedia, have turned against one of their own who was found to have created an elaborate false identity.

Under the name Essjay, the contributor edited thousands of Wikipedia articles and was once one of the few people with the authority to deal with vandalism and to arbitrate disputes between authors.

To the Wikipedia world, Essjay was a tenured professor of religion at a private university with expertise in canon law, according to his user profile. But in fact, Essjay is a 24-year-old named Ryan Jordan, who attended a number of colleges in Kentucky and lives outside Louisville.

Mr. Jordan’s deception came to public attention last Monday when The New Yorker published a rare editors’ note saying that when it wrote about Essjay as part of a lengthy profile of Wikipedia, “neither we nor Wikipedia knew Essjay’s real name,” and that it took Essjay’s credentials and life experience at face value.

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After the article appeared, a reader contacted The New Yorker about Essjay’s real identity, which Mr. Jordan had disclosed with little fanfare when he recently accepted a job at Wikia, a for-profit company.


In an e-mail message on Friday, The New Yorker’s deputy editor, Pamela Maffei McCarthy, said: “We were comfortable with the material we got from Essjay because of Wikipedia’s confirmation of his work and their endorsement of him. In retrospect, we should have let our readers know that we had been unable to corroborate Essjay’s identity beyond what he told us.”

The New Yorker editors’ note ended with a defiant comment from Jimmy Wales, a founder of Wikipedia and the dominant force behind the site’s growth. “I regard it as a pseudonym and I don’t really have a problem with it,” he said of Mr. Jordan’s alter ego.

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The article is quite good.

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The NYT story should help a lot. I was worried that this story might stay stuck in the blogosphere. But once the NYT publishes anything, it's officially okay for any reporter on the planet to treat it as worthy of his time and his publication. I put all the history links I have on this story in a box at the top of the home page at wikipedia-watch.org under the title, "The Essjay Evidence."
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Some news bits from Germany:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/86203
(One of the most prominent German speaking computer magazines. Their coverage is quite complete though some important facts are missing e.g. Essjay's use of his false academic titles to grade up in article discussions)

http://golem.de/0703/50871.html
(Another important tech-news portal. Their story's only covering the very basics though)

http://www.intern.de/news/neue--meldungen/...0703021383.html
(The most complete coverage so far but not up-to-date. They haven't got Jimbo's second statement and Essjay's dismissal yet)

Mainstream media will jump in tomorrow, I guess. They tend to give a lot of credit to the Wikipedia project, after all we didn't have a Seigenthaler disaster on de.wikipedia.org till now...

Oh, one more link from Austria I found mentioning Essjay, dated 08/26/06:
http://www.wienerzeitung.at/DesktopDefault...=wzo&cob=245440
Nicely written article explaining pro's and con's of the Wikipedia project in general. Contributing to WP may become an obsession, they say. "Or how would you explain otherwise one Dr. Essjay (a pseudonym), a professor teaching theology at an US college, spending 14 hours per day on his computer, writing or editing 16,000 WP articles since February 05?" cool.gif
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Anon,

Could you pin the current AFDs, RFCs, and DRV-by-Shoutings to the dynamic list? What with all the name changes from Ryan Jordan to Essjay, Midnite Deletions, and All-Round Floating Crap Game going on, I can hardly keep a breast of the boobarama, and I think we all know how upsetting that can be.

Gratia In Futuro ...

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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Mon 5th March 2007, 2:59am) *

The NYT story should help a lot. I was worried that this story might stay stuck in the blogosphere. But once the NYT publishes anything, it's officially okay for any reporter on the planet to treat it as worthy of his time and his publication. I put all the history links I have on this story in a box at the top of the home page at wikipedia-watch.org under the title, "The Essjay Evidence."


I cannot wait for "What Did Jimmy Know, and When Did He Know It?".

So far, his versions of events are curious (yes, the use of plural "versions" was intentional). Similar to what I endured with him in September and October.

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And here is Andrew Orlowskis comment in the Register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/06/wikipedia_crisis/


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"The deception was initially unearthed by Daniel Brandt in January,"

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QUOTE(The Adversary @ Mon 5th March 2007, 10:34pm) *
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"The deception was initially unearthed by Daniel Brandt in January,"

I just get no respect at all, do I?

I'm going to have to change my avatar to a photo of the late Rodney Dangerfield! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 5th March 2007, 11:51pm) *

QUOTE(The Adversary @ Mon 5th March 2007, 10:34pm) *

Quote: "The deception was initially unearthed by Daniel Brandt in January."


I just get no respect at all, do I?

I'm going to have to change my avatar to a photo of the late Rodney Dangerfield! laugh.gif


Make the appropriate correction here -- "for the record" -- and we'll alert the media.

No kidding ...

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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Mon 5th March 2007, 11:00pm) *
Make the appropriate correction here -- "for the record" -- and we'll alert the media.

Well, I do have an account there... I mean, I'm fine with the idea of Daniel getting the credit and all, and someone would have found it sooner or later regardless, but... oh, why not! You only live once! (Or twice, if you're James Bond.)
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Somey, I didn't tell Andrew that, and he didn't ask me that. On wikipedia-watch.org, in the box at the top, I am careful to give credit to "researchers" at wikipediareview.com. I even link to this site.

But look at it this way -- you need to "out" yourself and use your real name. No reporter will feel comfortable saying that "Somey, an anonymous user, found the new bio on wikia.com." So while I readily admit that you deserve the credit for finding the new bio on wikia.com, it's a lot more difficult for me to insist that a reporter give you the credit. And that's because you don't use your real name.

If I'm asked, I have to say "researchers at wikipediareview.com" found it. But I haven't been asked.

You have to admit, though, that I was a lot quicker to recognize that you stumbled across a smoking gun than you were, and that I acted on it, and you might not have acted on it if I hadn't noticed your post.

Andrew and I go back several years. We started with Google-bashing. He just assumed that I found the smoking gun. I had put about ten hours into Essjay research prior to your discovery, hours that turned up nothing. But at least I was able to smell smoke instantly when I saw Essjay's new bio, and I don't think your reaction to it was all that strong.

We need more people on this board who use their real names. Then we can talk about giving credit when it's due.
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Mon 5th March 2007, 11:51pm) *
But look at it this way -- you need to "out" yourself and use your real name. No reporter will feel comfortable saying that "Somey, an anonymous user, found the new bio on wikia.com."

Hmm... How about if I reveal my super-secret identity once it's clear they've deleted that article about you on WP once and for all? Maybe that will give them some incentive to actually do it this time...

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You have to admit, though, that I was a lot quicker to recognize that you stumbled across a smoking gun than you were, and that I acted on it...

That's true, of course. To be honest, I didn't want to believe Essjay was doing what it looked like he was doing. Since he was a Wikia staffer, I actually would have preferred not to make so much trouble for him - I sort of thought it might cause a lot of problems for Uncyclopedia, for some reason. Not sure why I thought that... But then he had to go and ruin it all by claiming he was "protecting himself" against "trolls and stalkers," which as we all know is just their code-phrase for, well, us.

Anyway, I'll talk to the S.O. about it - she's been against the idea since Day One, though. And there are some colleagues at work to consider, too. Also, I'm worried that the little girl who feeds me will also stop cleaning out my habitat if she finds out. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 6th March 2007, 6:14am) *

Hmm... How about if I reveal my super-secret identity

No, Jimbo, please don't.
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http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.d.../703060446/1008

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On Wikia's site, Jordan said he lives outside Louisville and studied philosophy and religion at Centre, in Danville, as well as the University of Kentucky and University of Louisville.

He said that before coming to Wikia, "I was an account manager with a Fortune 20 company, where I worked on a ten person team that managed roughly $500,000,000 in annual sales. Prior to that, I was a paralegal for five years," including "nearly a year with a firm in Louisville that represented doctors in medical licensure matter and a three month special position with a United States Bankruptcy Trustee."

A Centre spokesman confirmed Jordan attended from 2001 to 2003, and a UK spokesman said he was enrolled in the fall semester of 2003 at the former Lexington Community College, now Bluegrass Community and Technical College.

A spokeswoman for U of L said nobody by that name has attended the university since 1920, and a spokeswoman for the U.S. bankruptcy trustee said the office had no record Jordan had worked there.

J. Fox DeMoisey, a lawyer who represents doctors in licensure cases, said Jordan had worked in his office for about six months as a secretary and receptionist.


there we have it ... Ryan Jordan may also be a fake name.
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I just saw the Essjay scandal on ABC's World News Tonight!

Who knew this would be so huge! blink.gif

Web Link (if not already listed here):

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2928756&page=1

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