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> Biograph Company, Open slander and harrassment
biographco
post Fri 30th March 2007, 1:54am
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First, I want to thank the editors of the blog and say that there is such a need for this forum about Wikipedia, since this so called "Encyclopedia" is crawled by many other information websites and so many editors on Wikipedia truly have an agenda that is unfair and biased.

My company is a small independent film company and had been on Wikipedia for quite awhile with an article. Our company is a very old company, and has an exemplary reputation. We did not even post the first article but one of the Wiki-members did. The first article was fine and fairly accurate. However, in 2004 after our monument in Hollywood event, one editor appeared and became malicious with intent to harm the reputation of the company. This "Editor" also had a certain group of "Editors" that knew this person or he/she recruited them in an effort to discredit our company, and supply false information. We feel this was a personal attack and intent on harming the company's reputation for certain reasons.

At the time, I was not that familiar with Wikipedia guidelines or standards, and one of our VP's was extremely upset and dared to defy this "Editor". This VP who had a previous Wikipedia account was promptly blocked. I admit our VP did go against some Wiki-policies. Our attorney then attempted to call and contact Wikipedia to resolve the issue, but without results. The article was further re-written, including ambiguous information and intentional inclusions to make the company look "Ridiculous" which is actually posted IN WRITING by one of the administrators, yes, that this was their intent and goal. Since this, we have not attempted to change anything, in-process of legal proceedings according to state and federal law.

We also noticed that some other members of Wikipedia who were trying to correct the article contacted us on our information. These other editors also discovered that their was malicious intent against us, and were blocked as well by this other coalition of editors determined to discredit the company. This information we know of because of the blocked editors contacting our office.

We also was recently hacked and even embezzlement of funds occurred by hacking that coincide with recent Wikipedia activity against the company. This has been already reported to the proper authorities, and we believe it may have been a Wikipedia person involved in this slanderous effort.

Unfortunately, anyone attempting to correct the article about us is "Blocked" or "Banned". A monopoly of only a few associated editors now is able to include any false or harmful information without recourse. With this in mind, we have several options that we are in the process of initiating against Wikipedia and the foundation, some of it possibly criminal.

It is sad that Wikipedia is a great idea but is monopolized and used for personal and sometimes hateful agendas against others without provocation. We want to make everyone aware of this and maybe this can be stopped before Wikipedia finally pushed too far, and will eventually be shut down for inappropriate activity.

Please feel free to check out the Wikipedia article under "American_Mutoscope_and_Biograph_Company" and also read the "Talk" sections as well as the archive sections. We also encourage any kind of input on this subject.
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Toledo
post Thu 5th April 2007, 9:44am
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I've read through all the discussion page (includng the archived portion), and did not find anywhere where "they mention it several times that they added information specifically to make the company look bad."
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post Sun 8th April 2007, 12:35pm
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QUOTE(Toledo @ Thu 5th April 2007, 2:44am) *

I've read through all the discussion page (includng the archived portion), and did not find anywhere where "they mention it several times that they added information specifically to make the company look bad."

Quote from Wikipedia "Talk":

Refering to the "Moon" press release...

"I think it's obviously an attempt at self-promotion. I don't care whether it stays or goes. I've left it in myself because I think it's so silly that it undercuts any suggestion that the new Biograph is to be taken seriously. Dpbsmith (talk) 19:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)"
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post Sun 8th April 2007, 4:10pm
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QUOTE(biographco @ Sun 8th April 2007, 8:35am) *

"I think it's obviously an attempt at self-promotion. I don't care whether it stays or goes. I've left it in myself because I think it's so silly that it undercuts any suggestion that the new Biograph is to be taken seriously. Dpbsmith (talk) 19:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)"


That hardly constitutes actionable libel. I don't see how it can by any stretch of the imagination be considered a legal tort to express an opinion that somebody shouldn't be taken seriously, and that you'd like their own words to be publicized because they speak for themselves to that end.
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QUOTE(dtobias @ Sun 8th April 2007, 9:10am) *

QUOTE(biographco @ Sun 8th April 2007, 8:35am) *

"I think it's obviously an attempt at self-promotion. I don't care whether it stays or goes. I've left it in myself because I think it's so silly that it undercuts any suggestion that the new Biograph is to be taken seriously. Dpbsmith (talk) 19:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)"


That hardly constitutes actionable libel. I don't see how it can by any stretch of the imagination be considered a legal tort to express an opinion that somebody shouldn't be taken seriously, and that you'd like their own words to be publicized because they speak for themselves to that end.

Again, I am not an attorney, and it may or may not be. That is up to an attorney. However, the intent is there to include information to undercut a company's creditability. Unfortunateley I would like to go into more, but I was advised legally to only to relese so much information, but I do thank you for your input.


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QUOTE(biographco @ Sun 8th April 2007, 8:35am) *

"I think it's obviously an attempt at self-promotion. I don't care whether it stays or goes. I've left it in myself because I think it's so silly that it undercuts any suggestion that the new Biograph is to be taken seriously. Dpbsmith (talk) 19:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)"


That hardly constitutes actionable libel. I don't see how it can by any stretch of the imagination be considered a legal tort to express an opinion that somebody shouldn't be taken seriously, and that you'd like their own words to be publicized because they speak for themselves to that end.

Again, I am not an attorney, and it may or may not be. That is up to an attorney. However, the intent is there to include information to undercut a company's creditability. It is alsonot included in the article as an "Opinion, but as a "Fact". Unfortunateley I would like to go into more, but I was advised legally to only to relese so much information, but I do thank you for your input.

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biographco   Biograph Company   Fri 30th March 2007, 1:54am
anon1234   It's standard practice for editors and adminis...   Fri 30th March 2007, 2:51am
biographco   It's standard practice for editors and admini...   Fri 30th March 2007, 12:16pm
anon1234   From AN/I: Typical distortion. I notice they ar...   Sat 31st March 2007, 11:57pm
Somey   By far! I found this archived AN entry. Shoul...   Fri 30th March 2007, 4:45am
Toledo   In the part of the Wikipedia article about your co...   Sun 1st April 2007, 12:44am
biographco   In the part of the Wikipedia article about your c...   Thu 5th April 2007, 3:52am
biographco   In the part of the Wikipedia article about your c...   Thu 5th April 2007, 5:41am
Kathryn Cramer   In the part of the Wikipedia article about your ...   Thu 5th April 2007, 10:42am
Somey   Typical distortion. I notice they are associating...   Sun 1st April 2007, 4:21am
guy   By the way, welcome to the forum, Toledo! We ...   Sun 1st April 2007, 12:47pm
Somey   Cleveland is in North-East England and Toledo is i...   Sun 1st April 2007, 4:00pm
Toledo   That whole business about building a studio lot on...   Sun 1st April 2007, 5:44pm
Somey   ...The property deed on the moon is valid. Branson...   Sun 1st April 2007, 8:58pm
biographco   ...The property deed on the moon is valid. Branso...   Thu 5th April 2007, 3:29am
biographco   [quote name='guy' post='26444' date='Sun 1st Apri...   Thu 5th April 2007, 3:48am
Toledo   On "Building" a studio lot, no such thin...   Thu 5th April 2007, 3:56am
biographco   [quote name='anon1234' post='26423' date='Sat 31s...   Thu 5th April 2007, 4:08am
Toledo   Most states have a statute of limitations on libel...   Sun 1st April 2007, 5:04pm
biographco   Most states have a statute of limitations on libe...   Thu 5th April 2007, 8:22pm
Toledo   The article is libelous because it presents inaccu...   Fri 6th April 2007, 12:40am
biographco   The article is libelous because it presents inacc...   Fri 6th April 2007, 2:53am
Toledo   Libel under Florida law is a civil tort, not a cri...   Thu 5th April 2007, 3:49am
biographco   I've read through all the discussion page (in...   Sat 7th April 2007, 3:42am
biographco   I've read through all the discussion page (in...   Sat 7th April 2007, 7:08pm
biographco   I've read through all the discussion page (in...   Sat 7th April 2007, 11:58pm
Toledo   Because of time constraints, I cannot give you the...   Sun 8th April 2007, 2:54am
biographco   Because of time constraints, I cannot give you th...   Sun 8th April 2007, 4:40am
dtobias   "I think it's obviously an attempt at se...   Sun 8th April 2007, 4:10pm
biographco   [quote name='biographco' post='27109' date='Sun ...   Tue 10th April 2007, 9:27pm
Somey   Bingo! Couldn't have said it better muh...   Thu 5th April 2007, 3:28pm
biographco   Bingo! Couldn't have said it better muh...   Thu 5th April 2007, 8:08pm
biographco   Bingo! Couldn't have said it better muh...   Sun 8th April 2007, 12:11am
Uly   There's a saying in the legal profession: ...   Fri 6th April 2007, 2:27pm
Cedric   There's a saying in the legal profession: ...   Fri 6th April 2007, 5:27pm
Toledo   62A Am. Jur. 2d Privacy ยง 128: Restatement (Secon...   Sat 7th April 2007, 1:51am
Toledo   One comment from one editor = "they mention i...   Sat 7th April 2007, 8:08pm


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