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A holding page is up at www.WikiAbuse.com. If anyone is interested in helping--it will not be a lot of work, initially, at all--PM me please and we can sort it out for you to access the backdoor stuff, so that we can discuss if this is a viable project.

I figured a simple phase one would be simply hashing out ideas in private for it, on a disposable page. Please PM me if you're interested in this. It is, in it's simplest terms, envisioned as an accountability project. No silly outing, no silly attacks--we will use Wikipedia's own tools and content history against those that would abuse their peers, civilians, and the projects. A full dossier page detailing and analyzing malfeasance by every single admin or higher level user, including former/resigned/deadminned types. If you were ever in a position of power granted by your peers on a Wikimedia Project, admin, b'cat, CU, Steward, board, or higher--you'll have a page on you eventually. Pass RFA? You get a page/article/dossier added.

All material ideally should come from GFDL sources on WMF projects, so that it can be readily imported back in. If AdminX abuses UserY, UserY can review AdminX's entire history on WikiAbuse.com and take the relevant diffs and substantiating evidence to document patters of abuse, and paste them back into the RFC/RFA/AN/ANI/RFAR of their choosing. No one can RV them out as importing material from an attack site--since it's all just material from Wikipedia anyway; a chronological detailing of diffs and edits to show what AdminX has been up to.

Good people will have very, very, very short WikiAbuse.com dossiers. Ideally, everyone will have a page that says, "Admin Bob is darn nice guy. The end." Some will have dossiers, that if printed, would run dozens of pages. C'est la vie. Think of it as a fact-based recording of all your dirty business; your public record of doing things against Wikipolicy--in one central place for review by all.

Please PM if interested, so we can see if this is a viable and noble idea and goal. Externally enforced oversight, a third party ombudsman service for all Wikimedia people of power.

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Rootology   Wikiabuse.com   Tue 19th June 2007, 8:58pm
Jonny Cache   For starters, calling it "The Guide to Wikipe...   Tue 19th June 2007, 9:07pm
Rootology   For starters, calling it "The Guide to Wikip...   Tue 19th June 2007, 9:16pm
LamontStormstar   You also need to keep it from getting banned as a ...   Tue 19th June 2007, 9:12pm
Somey   Well, if you're not so interested in "out...   Tue 19th June 2007, 9:26pm
Rootology   Well, if you're not so interested in "ou...   Tue 19th June 2007, 9:35pm
thekohser   Also, I'm not so sure you should limit it to ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 1:14am
Jonny Cache   I have M.A.'s in Math and Quantitative Psych, ...   Tue 19th June 2007, 9:30pm
GlassBeadGame   I have previously expressed an interest in collect...   Tue 19th June 2007, 9:53pm
Jonny Cache   By way of a concrete dataset that illustrates one ...   Tue 19th June 2007, 9:58pm
Rootology   Guys, I'm not looking for Social Security numb...   Tue 19th June 2007, 10:07pm
GlassBeadGame   Root: I just want to make clear I feel friendly an...   Tue 19th June 2007, 11:15pm
Rootology   I opened it up. Let's see what happens, and we...   Tue 19th June 2007, 11:23pm
GlassBeadGame   I opened it up. Let's see what happens, and w...   Wed 20th June 2007, 1:16am
dtobias   Apparently that project is purporting to be a comm...   Tue 19th June 2007, 11:43pm
Rootology   Apparently that project is purporting to be a comm...   Tue 19th June 2007, 11:49pm
GlassBeadGame   Apparently that project is purporting to be a com...   Wed 20th June 2007, 12:01am
Jonny Cache   Hey, how about selling some gear? Yes, indeedy,...   Wed 20th June 2007, 1:24am
GlassBeadGame   Hey, how about selling some gear? Yes, indeedy...   Wed 20th June 2007, 1:32am
everyking   I really like this idea. A site to compile this ki...   Wed 20th June 2007, 2:02am
Rootology   I really like this idea. A site to compile this k...   Wed 20th June 2007, 2:03am
Firsfron of Ronchester   I really like this idea. A site to compile this k...   Wed 20th June 2007, 1:27pm
Rootology   I do hope it will be objective and not attack-ish...   Wed 20th June 2007, 1:46pm
Firsfron of Ronchester   [quote name='Firsfron of Ronchester' post='34778'...   Wed 20th June 2007, 2:56pm
Somey   This site has great potential as a useful tool in ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 3:45pm
Firsfron of Ronchester   Me too - I've got some ideas on this issue m...   Wed 20th June 2007, 7:13pm
Somey   In fact, it looks like DB is over there right now,...   Wed 20th June 2007, 7:23pm
Firsfron of Ronchester   In fact, it looks like DB is over there right now...   Wed 20th June 2007, 8:38pm
GlassBeadGame   And to Rootology: Thank you for reconsidering t...   Wed 20th June 2007, 8:40pm
Firsfron of Ronchester   And to Rootology: Thank you for reconsidering ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 8:45pm
GlassBeadGame   Nor did I say they did. Let me compliment you ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 8:49pm
Firsfron of Ronchester   Let me compliment you on the classy use of ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 9:00pm
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='34832' date='We...   Wed 20th June 2007, 9:03pm
GlassBeadGame   This site has great potential as a useful tool i...   Wed 20th June 2007, 4:30pm
LamontStormstar   Seriously, you got to get the stalking stuff out. ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 4:56am
Kato   Although I am impressed by the speed and zeal of t...   Wed 20th June 2007, 10:24am
Rootology   Agreed, very much. I'm going through the new c...   Wed 20th June 2007, 1:08pm
JohnA   I think its a terrible idea to do this as a wiki. ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 2:08pm
Rootology   I think its a terrible idea to do this as a wiki....   Wed 20th June 2007, 3:04pm
BobbyBombastic   From my view, what I've looked at so far seems...   Wed 20th June 2007, 3:40pm
Rootology   Have you confirmed that JZG on WikiAbuse is indee...   Wed 20th June 2007, 4:07pm
BobbyBombastic   On the naming issue, I'm seriously thinking ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 4:14pm
Rootology   Does Mediawiki, as part of an established installa...   Wed 20th June 2007, 4:33pm
Kato   I'm coming down against the naming of people. ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 4:38pm
Kato   Anyway, there's IP addresses and all kinds of ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 5:57pm
Rootology   Anyway, there's IP addresses and all kinds of...   Wed 20th June 2007, 6:10pm
Kato   Anyway, there's IP addresses and all kinds o...   Wed 20th June 2007, 6:25pm
Somey   Anyway, there's IP addresses and all kinds of ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 7:04pm
Rootology   Is there a practical way to enforce automatic semi...   Wed 20th June 2007, 7:10pm
norsemoose   Is there a practical way to enforce automatic sem...   Wed 20th June 2007, 8:46pm
Rootology   Dunno about semi-protection, but it is indeed pos...   Wed 20th June 2007, 8:59pm
Firsfron of Ronchester   And now, now, everyone, let's be nice. We...   Wed 20th June 2007, 9:28pm
GlassBeadGame   I don't think the above pot shots by GBG wer...   Wed 20th June 2007, 9:56pm
norsemoose   How do you the the move protection one? I couldn...   Thu 21st June 2007, 3:38am
Rootology   How do you the the move protection one? I couldn...   Thu 21st June 2007, 4:22pm
Rootology   Done thinking about it. As of now, no direct outi...   Wed 20th June 2007, 7:20pm
GlassBeadGame   Done thinking about it. As of now, no direct out...   Wed 20th June 2007, 7:42pm
Rootology   I guess I could go revert pics and id information...   Wed 20th June 2007, 7:54pm
Somey   Yes, why is everyone so touchy lately? Things are ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 9:44pm
Somey   But I thought you guys were in agreement on the wh...   Wed 20th June 2007, 10:00pm
GlassBeadGame   But I thought you guys were in agreement on the w...   Wed 20th June 2007, 10:01pm
Somey   I don't want to do it until we can do it right...   Wed 20th June 2007, 10:22pm
GlassBeadGame   I don't want to do it until we can do it righ...   Wed 20th June 2007, 10:28pm
Firsfron of Ronchester   Ah. I haven't seen that in his [url=http://en...   Thu 21st June 2007, 3:07am
Rootology   Er, let's calm down a bit guys? Everyone? Wik...   Wed 20th June 2007, 10:16pm
GlassBeadGame   Er, let's calm down a bit guys? Everyone? Wi...   Wed 20th June 2007, 10:17pm
Rootology   Question on names. Read this: http://wikiabuse.co...   Thu 21st June 2007, 1:08am
Alex   Question on names. Read this: http://wikiabuse.c...   Thu 21st June 2007, 1:48am
Somey   I made about 3 or 4 posts, and I no longer receive...   Thu 21st June 2007, 2:14am
kotepho   Automatic semi protection: deny edit, createtalk...   Thu 21st June 2007, 1:34am
everyking   Tony Sidaway has been with Wikipedia almost since ...   Thu 21st June 2007, 3:28am
LamontStormstar   Replace real names with what people would think th...   Thu 21st June 2007, 5:32am
Rootology   Replace real names with what people would think t...   Thu 21st June 2007, 3:47pm
Somey   Beats me who tried to get it blacklisted. Accordin...   Thu 21st June 2007, 4:47pm
Jonny Cache   You had some typos in one of the above links. I t...   Thu 21st June 2007, 5:14pm
BobbyBombastic   Another issue is that the site within hours appea...   Thu 21st June 2007, 7:09pm
LamontStormstar   And ED collectively probably would not try to get ...   Thu 21st June 2007, 8:39pm
Somey   ED's article had this joke "I bet it gets...   Thu 21st June 2007, 9:21pm
Jonny Cache   ED's article had this joke "I bet it ge...   Thu 21st June 2007, 9:27pm
Jonny Cache   I don't have an account on SiteMeter, but I kn...   Thu 21st June 2007, 4:38pm
Rootology   I don't have an account on [url=http://www.si...   Thu 21st June 2007, 5:41pm
Nathan   Agreed, seconded (thirded?) - I love the idea.   Sun 24th June 2007, 1:18pm


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