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Moulton
Dannon L. is a journalism student at Utah State University who interviewed me for a class discussion about Wikipedia in Online Journalism. Here is his blog post from that discussion...

QUOTE(Blog Article by Dannon L of Utah State University)
Wikipedia and an interview with the Founding Director of MicroMuse

"I'll have to look it up on Wikipedia." How often does that phrase come up on a daily basis? Wikipedia is a top hit and top return on search engines. It is used as a starting point for information and a place to general knowledge about a wide variety of topics. Many students don't think twice about the credibility of information on the site, despite the fact that most teachers will not allow Wikipedia as an official academic source for research. How credible is Wikipedia?

Dr. Barry Kort, a long-time science and technology researcher and educator, says there is no place in the world of academia for Wikipedia. He says that Wikipedia is a good source for looking up items of pop culture or for finding citations to primary sources, but that it isn't very reliable and you need to double check anything that you find there. Kort isn't the only person that criticizes Wikipedia. Multiple websites, such as Wikipedia Review.com, have been set up pointing out the faults and fallacies of the way Wikipedia is run. Even Wikipedia's co-founder, Larry Sanger, has since left Wikipedia to start a competing site, Citizendium which "aims to improve on Wikipedia's model" according to Citizendium's website. Why is there so much controversy? Is there something wrong with Wikipedia's model?

"Wikipedia is an example of a site that lacks ethics" says Kort. He says that Wikipedia is out of control and that it lacks a functional governance system. Wikipedia is known for being editable by anyone but Kort, who is also known as Moulton on the web, says that "Wikipedia is not a democracy. It's an oligarchy." A group of administrators help with the maintenance of Wikipedia, including blocking users and deleting pages and entries created by others. Administrators’ true identities remain anonymous and have a policy of protecting their identities. According to Kort, Wikipedia will kick you off if you disclose that information. Because of this, it is virtually impossible to prosecute Wikipedia or an administrator for slander or false information on the site.

Wikipedia has a list of rules that prevent subject matter experts from contributing to the site. Wikipedia doesn’t allow original research to be added to the site. For this and other reasons, other sites have been created that build upon the ideas of Wikipedia but do it in a manner that contributors and editors are identified and subject matter experts are valued. Examples of these websites are Citizendium, Scholarpedia, and Google’s Knol. These sites are written and edited more like the way encyclopedias are and despite the popularity of Wikipedia, Kort says that the better designs of these sites will eventually supplant Wikipedia.
Kato
Hey Moulton. You're hot property at the moment I see, and the press can't seem to get enough! Beware of those paparazzi - and never go topless on the beach while your star is still on the rise. Those long lenses can see everything.
Moulton
My charisma score doesn't warrant a long lens shot.
whatever
I do wonder if the need for anonymity has grown because of the flaws in the system. They may be a symptom of the problem rather than a factor. If you look at a large number of early contributors, they joined using real names, because back then the system didn't allow intimidation and fear. Now it does, because the governance is dreadful and inadequate.

Which isn't to say that the idea of allowing anonymous and pseudonymous editing hasn't been shown up to be monumentally flawed in the extreme. I think there has been too vigorous a reading of the "the encyclopedia anyone can edit". For the lack of the word constructively at the end one can only wonder.

I'm not really sure what the answer is. Possibly the best case scenario for Wikipedians is that Wikipedia will feed back into the system and improve other sources.
Moulton
Anonymity is correlated with irresponsibility. A legitimate encyclopedia needs to be a responsible enterprise, which precludes arbitrary editing by anonymous tinkerers.

If WP is recognized as little more than an MMPORG (fantasy role-playing game), then I have no problem with the players being anonymous/pseudonymous.
whatever
QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 25th February 2008, 12:28pm) *

Anonymity is correlated with irresponsibility. A legitimate encyclopedia needs to be a responsible enterprise, which precludes arbitrary editing by anonymous tinkerers.


I agree.
dogbiscuit
QUOTE(whatever @ Mon 25th February 2008, 12:15pm) *

I do wonder if the need for anonymity has grown because of the flaws in the system. They may be a symptom of the problem rather than a factor. If you look at a large number of early contributors, they joined using real names, because back then the system didn't allow intimidation and fear. Now it does, because the governance is dreadful and inadequate.



I signed up and edited with my real name. Then when you get involved with some of the characters (not just admins) and their toxic ways of dealing with things you question the wisdom of that.

I was always entirely discoverable on Wikipedia (and reckon anyone with 5 minutes could soon link me back to that ID) and in the couple of years of casual editing I never had an issue, so my concerns are paranoia, but then you come up against some very strange characters (several of whom seem to have popped in for a visit over here for the last week or two) and you realise that not everyone in the world has a sense of proportion...
Moulton
You will run into sociopaths both on the Internet and in real life.
thekohser
QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 25th February 2008, 8:53am) *

You will run into sociopaths both on the Internet and in real life.

A big difference, though, is that we generally do not willingly collaborate with sociopaths on projects having a unified goal.
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