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the fieryangel
Part I

QUOTE
The lack of trust in certain checkusers is the main problem here. When
Kelly Martin was given checkuser, I guessed that she would eventually
use it on me, because she doesn't like me, and she appeared not to
care about the rules. And sure enough, she did. When Alison and Lar
were given it and started posting regularly to Wikipedia Review, I
guessed that one or both would checkuser me at some point, and sure
enough, one of them did.

It would be good if ArbCom or the Ombudsman commission would see to it
that admins do not use checkuser for no reason against people they
don't like. It would be good if you would ensure that people who are
regular posters to Wikipedia Review refrain from using the tool
against editors who are attacked, cyberstalked, and defamed there.


And part II

QUOTE

> Furthermore, I just searched Wikipedia review and their public efforts
> to uncover your identity did not appear to begin until long after that
> check was performed.

You're not searching very carefully in that case. They were right in
the middle of a frenzy of trying to find out who I was when Kelly
performed the check. You may have to go into archive.org to find it. I
remember thinking at the time, "I bet Kelly Martin checkusers me," but
I didn't ask until months later, because part of me didn't want to
know. (Because then what? Make a complaint -- have it smoothed over by
Jimbo, referred to an Ombudsman who ignores it, more attacks on me on
IRC by Kelly Martin and her friends? -- which was precisely what
happened.)

Similarly, when I read Wikipedia Review claiming to have a checkuser
in their pocket, my first thought was, "That person will out himself
by checkusering me." (It was like finding out which employee has
raided the company accounts by waiting to see which of them suddenly
buys a new car and a second home in the country.)


Boy, she's really desperate, isn't she?
the fieryangel
The basic message seems to be Kelly Martin = Lar + Alison...which doesn't make any sense to me at all...
cyofee
Well, someone took Unrepetant Vandal's claim of being the sockmaster of 3 admins and checkuser seriously.
Kelly Martin
I checkusered Slim on May 31, 2006. Anybody want to go through the archives here and find out who was Investigating her at the time?

Just about everything else she's said about that incident is a lie, so I have no reason to believe that this tidbit wasn't either.
Shalom
QUOTE(cyofee @ Tue 22nd July 2008, 7:03pm) *

Well, someone took Unrepetant Vandal's claim of being the sockmaster of 3 admins and checkuser seriously.


I took it seriously after the Archtransit incident, before I had an account here, but I was just lurking. I didn't know at the time that Unrepentant Vandal was just a troll playing games with my mind and seeking that silly attention. I highly doubt that Unrepentant Vandal owns even one admin account, let alone three.
that one guy
SV is using any thing she can think of to get people off her case. Sadly for her and lucky for us, it's not working and makes her look even more bad.
the fieryangel
QUOTE(that one guy @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 2:32am) *

SV is using any thing she can think of to get people off her case. Sadly for her and lucky for us, it's not working and makes her look even more bad.


Slim quotes Kelly in her defense (from a private email)...

Hmm, I wonder if Kelly said that Slim could post this private email on a public list?

Anyhoo, this seems to be the suspicious diff that caused all of this...

And there is also much wringing of hands about SweetBlueWater....

Could somebody make some more popcorn?
Kelly Martin
QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 9:56am) *
Hmm, I wonder if Kelly said that Slim could post this?
Nope, I didn't. And she didn't bother to ask.
the fieryangel
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 2:57pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 9:56am) *
Hmm, I wonder if Kelly said that Slim could post this?
Nope, I didn't. And she didn't bother to ask.


Yup, I figured as much...So much respecting people's privacy, huh?
Kelly Martin
QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 9:58am) *

QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 2:57pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 9:56am) *
Hmm, I wonder if Kelly said that Slim could post this?
Nope, I didn't. And she didn't bother to ask.
Yup, I figured as much...So much respecting people's privacy, huh?
Well, I post on Wikipedia Review, therefore I'm not entitled to even basic courtesies since I am THE ENEMY. Cower in fear before me!

My one regret is that there's absolutely no hope that I will ever grow a Ming the Merciless beard and mustache.
the fieryangel
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 3:17pm) *

My one regret is that there's absolutely no hope that I will ever grow a Ming the Merciless beard and mustache.


Hey, you could probably get a good fake version from a theatrical supplies shop...and I'm sure that Slim wouldn't notice the difference...


dtobias
QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 10:56am) *


What exactly did Kelly find suspicious about that diff? It seems to be just the sort of drama-queen histrionics we expect from Slim (getting "fed up" and saying she's quitting, only to end up not going away after all, or coming back after a short time), and completely in character.
Kelly Martin
QUOTE(dtobias @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 12:05pm) *
What exactly did Kelly find suspicious about that diff? It seems to be just the sort of drama-queen histrionics we expect from Slim (getting "fed up" and saying she's quitting, only to end up not going away after all, or coming back after a short time), and completely in character.
It's in character for her now. Not so much in May 2006. Even the fine folk at Wikipedia Review had thought she had lost it back then, too.
LessHorrid vanU
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 4:17pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 9:58am) *

QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 2:57pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 9:56am) *
Hmm, I wonder if Kelly said that Slim could post this?
Nope, I didn't. And she didn't bother to ask.
Yup, I figured as much...So much respecting people's privacy, huh?
Well, I post on Wikipedia Review, therefore I'm not entitled to even basic courtesies since I am THE ENEMY. Cower in fear before me!

My one regret is that there's absolutely no hope that I will ever grow a Ming the Merciless beard and mustache.


Well, not on your face...



(yeah, I will refactor this upon request)



I'm getting all this SV stuff from here, because I will not join these various mailing lists and IRC channels - but did she really say that Alison joined here after being given CheckUser? I ask because I seem to remember a fair few peoples (which may have included SV) reaction to the news of the giving of CU to Alison was ZOMG! She has an account at WR and posts there! I also seem to remember a few people here requesting assurance that she could not use links here to check against accounts on WP, and Alison turning some bits off (or something - readers capable of withstanding viewing my posts know about my tech ignorance) so not to compromise her trustiness...

In short, SV may not always have the most accurate recall - whether by accident or design.
Milton Roe
QUOTE(LessHorrid vanU @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 2:11pm) *

QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 4:17pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 9:58am) *

QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 2:57pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 9:56am) *
Hmm, I wonder if Kelly said that Slim could post this?
Nope, I didn't. And she didn't bother to ask.
Yup, I figured as much...So much respecting people's privacy, huh?
Well, I post on Wikipedia Review, therefore I'm not entitled to even basic courtesies since I am THE ENEMY. Cower in fear before me!

My one regret is that there's absolutely no hope that I will ever grow a Ming the Merciless beard and mustache.


Well, not on your face...



(yeah, I will refactor this upon request)


biggrin.gif

Madame, what kind of wax will we be having today?

Well, we offer the American, also called the Flash Gordon, or we have a slightly more complete French, also called the Marie Antoinette, and finally there is the Brazilian or Chinese Torture, also called Ming the Merciless.
wikiwhistle

QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 4:17pm) *


My one regret is that there's absolutely no hope that I will ever grow a Ming the Merciless beard and mustache.


I'm sure you could if you wanted- hey I could if I wanted, it must be my Maltese blood/hair or something smile.gif
Kelly Martin
QUOTE(LessHorrid vanU @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 4:19pm) *
In short, SV may not always have the most accurate recall - whether by accident or design.
I'm still not sure whether she simply ignores reality, or has no clue what reality is.... it's really hard to tell.
Disillusioned Lackey
QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 9:09am) *


Har. This is NOT a first in her life. Har.

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 9:09am) *

I'm surprised she didn't call him a:
  • cyberterrorist
  • stalker
  • harassor
  • purveyor of actionable libel
  • sock of Daniel Brandt (without mentioning Brandt's name)

This woman deserves her own comedy show.

She's unintentionally hilarious!


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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 23rd July 2008, 4:34pm) *
I'm still not sure whether she simply ignores reality, or has no clue what reality is.... it's really hard to tell.
Well, one is a necessary but not sufficient condition for the other to transpire.
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