QUOTE(Alison @ Wed 12th November 2008, 1:42am)
Why on earth won't people just let it go already??
When someone engages in a recurring issue, it's a good bet there is something comparable in their own personal backstory that remains naggingly unresolved.
Ask yourself what these adolescents are trying to learn, that our education system has failed to teach them.
You've identified the dichotomy between
Retributive Justice and
Restorative Justice as a major component of the issue. Since our culture unwisely teaches the former rather than the latter, it remains a cultural neurosis that gets reified in the pages of the sudsy operatics of Wikipedia's long-running drama engine.
What's needed here is therapeutic education. But that education is going to have to be packaged up in the form of a post-modern comic opera that sets a new standard in edutainment that transcends
Dilbert & Sullivan, transcends Bugs Bunny vs. Elmer Fudd, transcends Roadrunner vs. Wiley Coyote, and even transcends Buffy, Gilmore Girls, and The Matrix.
QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 12th November 2008, 5:18am)
It is basically a cry for attention from insecure schoolboys.
Alison, word of advice, don't lawyer with these idiots, brute force is the only language.
Yes, it's a cry for attention, to attend to a bug in their cultural education. But neither lawyering nor clubbing is the answer.
What these kids need is a custom-crafted comic opera that addresses their unmet educational needs.
See, for example, this number:
Web Side Story.
QUOTE(Eric Barbour)
QUOTE(Moulton)
You've identified the dichotomy between
Retributive Justice and
Restorative Justice as a major component of the issue. Since our culture unwisely teaches the former rather than the latter, it remains a cultural neurosis that gets reified in the pages of the sudsy operatics of Wikipedia's long-running drama engine.
What's needed here is therapeutic education. But that education is going to have to be packaged up in the form of a post-modern comic opera that sets a new standard in edutainment that transcends
Dilbert & Sullivan, transcends Bugs Bunny vs. Elmer Fudd, transcends Roadrunner vs. Wiley Coyote, and even transcends Buffy, Gilmore Girls, and The Matrix.
Well put. You do realize that restorative justice is generally too subtle for apes. Every ape thinks he or she is an island, or maybe a universe if you're talking about a real egomaniac.
Perhaps we should force all the admins to watch W. I saw it last night. Subtle but effective mockery of Mr. Bush, as a crude and shallow retributive personality with little regard for others or for the rule of law.
It was apparently too subtle for Bush to figure out that Oliver Stone was not being complementary to him:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/...sh.w/index.htmlThis is the ironic dilemma of the Wikisphere. On the one hand, the project advertises itself as the sum of all human knowledge.
But when it comes to
demonstrating that knowledge to students, educators and scholars around the world, the dominant players in the Wikisphere regress to anachronistic governance practices that predate not only the Age of Enlightenment, they even predate the advent of the Rule of Law itself.
But since the Wikisphere is thus also host to endless reruns of the oldest and most fundamental stories and political dramas in the annals of human history, it occurs to me that the optimal strategy is to exploit that drama engine to intentionally reprise the most efficacious versions of those dramatic passages in the historical record chronicling the advance of civilization from the pre-Hammurabic era down through the ages to modern times.
The contrast between GWB and Barack Obama will help to highlight this cultural learning curve of Western Civilization.
The epoch of the
Reptilian Right is ending, and Wikipedia will be host to that angst-ridden apocalypse by way of its native Post-Modern Theater of the Absurd.