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Moulton
The Augmented Social Cognition blog at PARC has two new articles which relate to Wikipedia.

The first analyzes the dramatic slow-down in the growth of Wikipedia.

The second is mainly about the social aspects of learning, but it relates that subject to Wikipedia.
emesee
Has PARC been around for a little while? Have they ever done anything to earn some credibility?


Let's check...

http://encyc.org/wiki/PARC


They invented the GUI... and ethernet? neat. smile.gif
Milton Roe
QUOTE(emesee @ Sun 26th July 2009, 10:16am) *

Has PARC been around for a little while? Have they ever done anything to earn some credibility?


Let's check...

http://encyc.org/wiki/PARC


They invented the GUI... and ethernet? neat. smile.gif

And famously Fumbled the Future in both cases (failing to commercialize the ideas through Xerox, and then having them ripped off by others who then did, like Jobs).
Somey
I'm not sure if they'll allow it, but my comment was basically this:
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I realize there's a need for proper scientific analysis of these things, and I don't mean to seem dismissive, but Wikipedia and its various trends aren't something you can understand through numerical analysis. Even if you're only interested in "growth," you can't account for what actually occurs. For example, a single person can create literally thousands of worthless "stub" articles in a very short period of time, just so that he can say he's created more articles than anyone else, and most of these are kept on the site - mostly because of that person's reputation for creating large numbers of articles. If that person decides to simply quit one day, you'll have a significant reduction in the growth rate due solely to that single event.

Besides, it sounds like you're not taking into account the fact that humans are territorial, and the number of topic areas that can be that can be staked out as territories for individual or group control is limited. Ongoing observation suggests that this limit has already been reached, save for new areas that are added as a result of new events, inventions, discoveries, and so on. A traditional mindset might have one thinking that this would be a stabilizing factor, but on Wikipedia, it simply results in more content disputes, more conflict between users, and more gamesmanship, which is countered with more formalization and attempts to impose editorial and behavioral standards. This, in turn, further reduces new-article count.

It's especially important to note that a reduction in Wikipedia growth, by any measure, is a good thing. The more garbage you create, the bigger the mess you have, and the harder it is to dispose of it all when something better comes along.
EricBarbour
That PARC study exactly parallels the conclusions in that Spanish guy's dissertation.
WP's editorial traffic peaked in 2006/07 and is slowly declining.

Still no good analysis of the average quality of articles..........
Moulton
QUOTE(Comments from the Blog)
The editing environment has also changed (it has become more combative and politically charged) though that might prove trickier to gauge by statistical metrics. PARC's ongoing studies of Wiki-conflicts could help shed some light on this aspect of the trend.

Dynamic models of politically charged conflicts are a growth area on the frontiers of Game Theory and Drama Theory.

In response to Somey's comment posted above, Ed Chi writes...

QUOTE(Ed Chi's response to Somey's comments)
I understand your point about measurement of an evolving system being difficult. However, there has been plenty of research in ecology and economics where you can find regularities in collective behavior when viewed both at the macro and micro scales.

I think you'd be surprised at the ability for ecological equations to model population growth, for example, after taking into account of resource constraints, current predator populations, and available food supply and other environmental factors.

Regarding your second point about being territorial, the regularity we observe in the statistics actually relies on the fact that editors are being territorial. This makes their behavior more predictable than random, and results in statistical distributions that we can observe that are different than total chaotic random distributions.

Because Wikipedia offers such a large and continuing sample space, the analysts in Chi's group at PARC are well-positioned to demonstrate the power of mathematical modeling to capture the underlying dynamics of political drama. Elsewhere, Dan Arieli broke new ground with his studies of behavioral economics, demonstrating that people are predictably irrational in territorial and revenge dramas. I expect Ed Chi to continue building insightful models of Wikipedian political dramaturgy along the same lines.
Moulton
Part 1 of Ed Chi's report garnered a lot of press coverage and commentary here.

The second part of his report has been posted for almost a week. It provides more details.
Milton Roe
QUOTE(Moulton @ Thu 13th August 2009, 3:40pm) *

Part 1 of Ed Chi's report garnered a lot of press coverage and commentary here.

The second part of his report has been posted for almost a week. It provides more details.

A lot of cool quantitative stuff about who contributes to WP's content, done by Chi and his buddies at PARC, here: http://asc-parc.blogspot.com/2007/05/long-...hs-of-user.html
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