QUOTE(wikieyeay @ Wed 3rd November 2010, 7:26pm)
I'm not going to read your links to figure out the 'truth' about this guy, because he is of no interest to me, but the way it works with Wikipedia is fairly simple:
* If the subject is an obscure living person, then one persistent shill will usually win, because for most articles, nobody cares (like me with this guy).
* If the subject is a notable living person, then wikitruth rules.
Example,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger*snip*
In the case of Arnie, as is obvious from the contents above, the brand of 'truth' being peddled is one that sees him as a right-wing hate figure, and that's not going to change because it's embedded in the system
In the case of this pastor, nobody cares, so one of his congregation can easily push their own line, even though that line is against the system's line; the problem being that while the system is big enough to tell the world Arnie sucks, it's not big enough to do the same to all minor figures that they would hate if only they had the time.
Yes, that is the way it usually works in wikiland,
unless someone here starts a thread on the article. Then someone from the cleanup crew of the Wikipedia Improvement Association swoops in and does a "cleanup" on the article to make it more compliant with WP "policy".
As happened in this case. Again.
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 5th November 2010, 2:07pm)
While this guy sounds like a piece of work it needs to be kept in context. Overall Wikipedia is plagued by unsourced/unreliable negative information as well as irrelevant and disproportionate weight being given to marginal negative information. This amounts to a serious concern for people who never chose to have anything to do with the project. Compared to the BLP defamation problem the matter of Wikipedians game-playing to keep out proper negative information is mostly an internal matter of little wider concern. It makes me uncomfortable to see criticism that specific articles should be more negative.
Another good point. Although there is evidence strongly suggesting that other evangelicals are correct in thinking that Ed Young is "a wolf let loose amongst the sheep", that doesn't mean it's okay to just dump that info into his BLP. WP has shown time and again that despite (or perhaps because of) its ridiculous "NPOV" policy, it simply cannot be trusted to give due weight and context to negative information on a BLP subject.
From Young's perspective, he is better off not having a BLP at all. I certainly had not heard of him before, and I have no idea if he is that well known outside of the DFW and Miami metro areas. I suspect that the longer his BLP stays around, the greater the chances of his eventually ending up in WP's own little
Hall of Shame.