Rupert Thurner rupert.thurner at gmail.comMon Feb 21 07:06:46 UTC 2011
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On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 20:04, Sue Gardner <sgardner at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> I did a superfast compilation of online comments by women talking
> about why they don't edit Wikipedia:
>
>
suegardner.org/2011/02/19/nine-reasons-why-women-dont-edit-wikipedia-in-their-own-words>
> A couple of things struck me: Most of the reasons cited by women for
> not editing probably apply to men too. Most are deeply rooted culture
> stuff that will take time to change. And I was particularly interested
> to read women saying they believe the bar for notability is higher for
> the topics they write about, than it is for 'male' or 'ungendered'
> topics.
>
> Thanks,
> Sue
>
hi sue, that sounds really interesting, i immediately tested the reasons
with people i know. the answers i got were:
* no time,
* no interest,
* what is wikipedia / you can edit wikipedia?
while "no time" is a very prominent and simple reason, this would match
every person. as at the end of the day it is a decision between editing
wikipedia and watch tv, edit wikipedia and hike, edit wikipedia and blog, …
then i looked at edit counts of arbitrarily chosen women i know the user
name of [1], starting with you as you wrote this email. as participating in
wikipedia is a social thing, i was wondering who dragged you into wikipedia,
and whom did you drag into it? and how? how much of your free time /
holiday do you spend for wikipedia?
coming from edit counts i then looked at user profiles, blogs, titters, etc
to get an impression about the internet / social network participation in
general. again a couple of arbitrary links [2].
then i was wondering about you, beeing related to the internet business and
the social aspects of it for an eternity in internet terms of time. and i
thought about richard branson, who stated in "loosing my virginity" that his
market surveys often include only one opinion: his own. if richard branson
is right, then we can take sue gardners edit count as indication, that the
whole thing is moving in the right direction
take your last trip i can remember, going to india. highly successful from a
professional pov, there is now a chapter, etc. you took the time to prepare
the travel, to read about the region and the people, you took the time to
blog/twitter about it, to write a report to the wmf board, but did you edit
the article about india? did you upload a foto to commons?
what needs to be changed that you would have done this?
rupert.
[1] just a few edit counts …
* sue in en:
toolserver.org/~river/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Sue Gardner&dbname=enwiki_p* sue in commons:
toolserver.org/~river/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Sue Gardner&dbname=commonswiki_p* angela recent contributions:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Angela* angela in en:
toolserver.org/~river/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Angela&dbname=enwiki_p* delphine in fr:
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Notafish* [Jimbo Wales]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jimbo Wales[2] user profiles …
*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sue_Gardner*
http://www.linkedin.com/in/suegardner*
http://au.linkedin.com/in/angelabeesley*
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jimmy-wales/0/a8b/919*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo