I was permabanned yesterday for "outing" Mantanmoreland" as Gary Weiss - how exactly I can have outed him when he's already said he's categorically not Gary Weiss I'm not sure. See the fun here. All the usual suspects were there, Jayjg, Slim, Musical Linguist, Killer Chihuahua, IronDuke, Moshe Constantine etc. etc. etc.

Do we commiserate or congratulate ?

Somebody's lying about Gary Weiss.

More than one person, possibly.

Well I'm just looking forward to a Weiss Christmas

A very kind and SlimVirgin-fatigued and to-remain-anonymous admin retreived the deleted AfD debate on Gary Weiss for me and now I know why they wanted it gone: Fred Bauder aknowledges the Mantanmoreland=Gary Weiss connection. Just like that. So I guess they'll be banning Fred soon.

Well at least Fred has Citizendium.

On the topic of the deletion of the Weiss AfD, look at what a weasel Jimbo is. I almost feel sorry for him. Slim and Jayjg have got him by the balls, for sure.

There's an interesting chess game being played here, of sorts. To be somewhat fair to Jimbo, I'd have to say he's been painted into a corner: He can't admit that he's ptoecting Weiss's identity without turning the SlimVirgin crown against him, and he obviously can't do that - they're his Number-One "stalking horses," if nothing else! If he loses them, heavens to Betsy, people are going to start thinking a lot of the crap that goes on at Wikipedia might actually be his fault.




So what is Jimbo supposed to do now? I don't think he has any choice at this point but to ignore the question, and the entire issue, until enough time has passed that he can delete the discussion entries and pretend the whole thing never happened... right?

And of course, meanwhile, Weiss continues to use Wikipedia as a personal promotional tool to support his highly questionable beliefs about short-selling of stocks, all with the collusion of the site's most powerful admins.

I still think the whole situation has become a little tedious, though... At this point, whenever I see the words "Gary Weiss" now, I want to get up off the chair and pogo for a while, if only to take my mind off it.

Also, Jorge, I'm sorry to see about the ban and all... But you had to figure that would happen, going after them so directly, right?

Oh well.

My condolences. I can be a real asshole, can't I?

I hope you've got a copy for future reference.

Then how's WordBomb fit into the whole thing?

Is WordBomb Gary Weiss? And who was the person who added the personal info that WordBomb wanted and SlimVirgin hid (the info that got Everyking deadmined) was it WordBomb, Gary Weiss, someone else?

Wordbomb's the guy who brought the freakish relationship between Mantanmoreland and SlimVirgin to our attention. (I assume) he's behind Antisocialmedia.net. I seriously doubt he's Gary Weiss, but one never knows here on this fancy interwebs.

I hate to speak for anybody, but he doesn't seem to post here anymore. Otherwise I'd let him answer.

I thought he mighta been banned for getting Everyking desysoped. If not that, he left in shame.

It's OK IronDuke, I'm sure you aren't entirely responsible for your own ignorance.

Of course I did, and I sent a copy to Antisocialmedia.net, and it got posted here.

I'm still trying to find the incivility Jimbo insists was there. Maybe it's because I can't get past Fred Bauder's comment.

Apparently one of the main criteria to justify a permaban is that they are a "Regular poster to Wikipedia Review". Or is that just a coincidence?

See how confusing this is, people? It's madness - madness, I tellya! Anyway, Mantanmoreland is Gary Weiss. WordBomb doesn't like Mantanmoreland/Weiss. One could easily be forgiven for thinking he hates Mantanmoreland/Weiss, who I think we should refer to as "Mantanweissland" from now on, just to help reduce all this confusion.

As for the individual who added the personal info in question, I sincerely hope that wasn't Mr. WordBomb himself, using a sock puppet account. Because as much as I disagree with Everyking about many Wikipedia-related matters (not to mention the merits of Ashlee Simpson's work), I just can't help but like the guy, and the idea that he would lose his position there because WordBomb pretended curiosity about the content of an edit he himself posted would be, shall we say... bad.


And even more identity confusion! IronDuke, I believe that one of my awesome gnarly admin powarz here is the ability to change usernames. So if you're not the WP IronDuke and you're tired of being confused with same, I could fix it... We could call you "SteelDuke" or "TitaniumDuke." Oooh, I know - IridiumDuke!


Yes, I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

Sometimes I wonder how much it bothers them that I myself am not a registered Wikipedia user, and never have been? No doubt I flatter myself in thinking they might care in the slightest, but it must puzzle them at least a little bit.

But oooh, that's right - I forgot! I'm WordBomb, just like everyone else here! I'm so absent-minded sometimes...

I don't hold it against him and I told him that, so I hope he didn't leave in shame.

Iron Duke --> Dux Ferrum --> Ferrous Leader

Qwik !!! B4 somebody else grabs it !!!

See, Kiddies, that 3 years of Latin didn't go entirely to waste !!!

Jonny

OK... If you want, I can also remove my potentially-unwanted speculations just above this bit. It's no skin off my nose if you want to tweak someone else's, I guess, as long as they're properly deserving of it!

I think its cool that we're not totally sure who someone is. Sock puppeting doesn't really matter on a site like this. The worst it can do is to make us think that you are someone who you are not. Wikipedia shouldn't be banning people for what they say on here anyway, so throwing a bit of confusion in there is better.

I'm sure we'd all agree to that! But lots of things happen on Wikipedia that shouldn't.