Fri 24th August 2007, 2:25pm
Guy Chapman goes right on saying the same old thing :
Similarly, we had a long-running dispute with Jean-Thierry Boisseau about the wp:list of major opera composers, a comprehensively referenced list. His problem? No women. Yup, absolutely right: the sources agree that the history of opera is one of white guys, mainly dead white guys at that. Wikipedia is not the place to fix problems with the real world, it's the place to document them. But, of course, if you try to point that out, you are immediately part of the Vast Conspiracy to Do Down the little guy, women, black people, Jews, neo-nazis or whatever other group is under discussion. And when a ton of shit is thrown by each of these advocates, only a tiny bit has to stick. Nobody is perfect. Nobody needs to be. But there is a world of difference between being slightly imperfect in some ways, and having frustrated advocates labelling you as anti-foo every time you start to discuss an even tangentially related concept.
In other words, "the circumstances made it acceptable to say that "no women were notable because none were on my IPod".
Well, Guy, the circumstances do not give you that right. The circumstances gave you the right to locate the sources (which people here could have pointed out to you) to show that there were notable women composers of opera. You chose instead to make a self-aggrandizing remark to show what an expert you are. You were then, rightly, called on the sexism of this remark.
This does not explain why it was necessary to redirect "turd burglar" to "gay", however. Nor does it explain the anti-Catholic or anti-transgendered statements.
Guy needs to just shut up and get on with his life. Clearly, he has no place on WP and did everyone a service by going away.