I looked through Ryulong's contributions again. While he constantly deletes peoples' userpages of all except for those who request it like "Mrs random" of whom he will not delete her userpage.

Well I saw on September 19th, Ryulong deleted sock puppet tags in mass claiming the mere essay WP:DENY supercedes the policy WP:SOCK. The socks were banned by Checkuser, too.

This is only the latest in non-policy WP:DENY used as The Prime Directive.

Ryulong — I think that's Dragon-Dragon or ∑ting in cross-cult Japanese-Chinese bi-lingo — aka Hao Rong Ryu™, aka Denno Coil™, ¬2b≈? Denny Colt™, aka Baby Spice Pow-War Ranger™, aka Ichi-Ban-Trigger-Finger-O-Fate™, aka Mister Samurai Nite V'ger™, aka Tele-Tubby-Terminator-Three (TTT3)™, and no doubt a host of other e-pathetic e-pithets that I can't recall right now, is one of the Few, the Brave, the Proud™ who truly grok the OGIFT OGEEKS that Wikipedia is meant to be.

Maybe that Sho™Gun name gives us a clue to his deep emersion in the SlumVassal Honor-&-Offer Code of Archaic Sho™Gunate Kultur. Maybe it's all those years he spent @ da φeet o' da Masters o' da Arcane Arcade Arts. Howevah imblued within his genes, wherevah he larned it in Trial By Drive By Fire, Flame, and FlameThroar™, it is clear that Drag-Goon Drag-Goon Ryulong is the genuwhine e-pitome of the ↑-&-Coming Suck Peeple that Jimbo hath made, as in O brave new world that has Suck Peeple in't!

Jonny

That is an interesting proposal, and I think it has a flipside as well.

WP:DENY should be addended with something like this:

02:14, 19 September 2007 Ryulong (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:I had a threesome with NicholasTurnbull and Raul654" ‎ (WP:DENY)

Ha ha ha.

Since you're talking about Ryulong's mass deletion of Blu Aardvark sock pages, it's probably because Blu is inactive, and nearly all edits regarding those pages was by Anomo, doing what he does best, raising hell (the thing he did using the real names of admins was pretty funny). I think it's perfectly reasonable now that Blu has demonstrated that he is gone for all those pages to be deleted, for the reasons Blissyu2 stated.

WP:SOCK doesn't say that sockpuppet pages have to be kept forever, just that you can't use socks abusively

WP:DENY is a common sense idea. There is no real need to keep track of hundred of accounts that were just throw-aways or attack names. Doing so only gives attention, an example being the attention given to Cplot and his thousand sock army.

Guys, Guys, Guys, you're not really a full-blooded Adminion until you've given Caesarean Birth to your WP:VERYOWN policy, or at least raised some Poor Orphan Pup of an Ess(j)ay to the Status of Holy Terror and JunkYardChihuahua for All Occasions.

Jonny

Ryulong didn't appear to delete any sock tags that the sockpuppeteer would want deleted, only stuff they probably wouldn't want deleted. If someone asked Ryulong or someone like him to delete a sock page tagged in their name they want deleted, the administrator asked would likely guard it so it'll never be deleted.


Who tagged this? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=153713935

Since this is apparently a Ryluong thread, I just saw this Ryulong blocks CattleGirl for "no constructive changes to the encyclopedia in a month". Just one problem, she is an administrator! Oops.

I had one brief encounter with Ryulong and guess what it was. A knee-jerk half-cocked reflex edit that blanked, then pretended it was a failed attempt to reorganize it.

My impression was of a very over-stimulated videogame addict who confused the admin keys on his wikiboard with the shootemup keys on his playstation.

It was over something about Miami U. as I recall, which must have been his home team or something. He did offer a quick apology. Everything is quick with that guy.

It looks obvious to me Ryulong didn't like CattleGirl's edits and wanted to ban her, only lying with "oops wrong button" to pretend it was an error. It's also obvious not "wrong button" since he went and deleted all of her user subpages, too.

After that, then he didn't ban anyone else with that message.

Let's see who "no constructive changes to the encyclopedia in a month" could apply to....

Curps : no edits for a long time
Jayjg : no edits for months
Larry Sanger : only talk page edits for over a month

Damn, I guess I'm next! After the millions of other accounts that haven't been touched in months...



Great Scott! I think he's on to something.

This from a WikiPhage who eats up Gigabytes of Server Space arguing with other arcade aficionadas about the macron macaroni that belongs over each and every vowel of the Ten Thousand Animangame characters.

Jonny

Ryulong says it right there

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=160128260

He was all ready to ban her for life. He didn't just mistakenly press block, but took the time to delete all her userpages. He probably looked in her logs for pictures to delete and saw she was an admin or else someone told him on IRC. If she was not an administrator, he would have banned her for life with no remorse, and think nothing of it. She would have requested unblock and be denied and then have to come back on a sock puppet, then maybe get the sock tagged, then Wikipedia could ban whoever they wanted as a suspected sock of her to win an argument.

Wow... If she wasn't admin, what a different twist of fate.

Unless my <find on page> missed it somehow, I don't find Ryulong on the HiveMind Page (Site?).

Can anybody verify or falsify what it says about itself on its user page?

Or do they let you take Wiki-Sabbaticals now in undergrad programs?

Jonny

This is terrifying. If she wasn't an admin, she'd be gone now, purged. The reason given for blocking is completely absurd. When is something going to be done about this guy?

And yer asking us … why?

Jonny

I've noticed that everyking is now asking Ryulong why he did what he did.

How much does anyone want to bet everyking will get a "less-than-satisfying" answer?

A- Comment will be ignored
B- Comment will be blanked
C- He'll be told to stop trolling
D- Others will tell everyking to stop trolling their favorite vandal fighter. Jimbo be praised!
E- everyking will be blocked and insulted
F- Other_______?

No doubt there will be some e-lusive mention of unmentionable websites as a part of the obligatory oubliette-threatening ritual.

Jonny

Answer will be "B", "E"

I'll take a guess while we're waiting: F), a weak, terse non-explanation, possibly featuring an emphasis on the fact that he already apologized to her.

Do I have to splain everyting to youse guys?

Please don't be distracted by yet another variation on the standard opening pawn move.

The real reason why Booby Spice Pow-War Ringer Hao Rong Ryu did what it did had nothing to do with the particular target of opportunity that it chose to range its guns on the first time out of the box.

It's what WikiPugilists would call a φeint — or to put it in their more preferred template-talk:

{{ TEST }}

Keep yer ears tuned — the other shew is about to drop —

Maybe ¬today … maybe ¬tomorrow … but soon … and you know the rest —

Or you should … by now …

Jonny

The results are in: he removed the question from his talk page and replied on my talk page (normally he replies on his own page). In the response on my talk, he said that everyone makes mistakes, that he already apologized, and that he knows he "should triple-check in these situations" (yes, that would be nice). He didn't explain why CattleGirl should be exempted from the block based on her admin status, if her edits, as he judged them in ignorance of her status, actually merited a block. He also signalled that he reads WR and is aware of this thread.

Ryulong didn't like what Everyking said so he blanked it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=160318755

Next Ryulong did...

Personal attack on Mr Cache + outing of real name:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=160319838

Remember how Wikipedia is an attack site?





He also replied on his talk page, too, but kept your comment out.


As for evidence he reads Wikipedia Review, this is evidence enough:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...LamontStormstar
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...LamontStormstar

Considering that Cache edited under his real name , and continues to link to that page on his user profile here, it isn't outing at all. Also saying someone's posts are hard to wade through is a criticism of their writing style not a personal attack.

Also he had to undo another one of his "not myspace" blocks on a Pokemon fan of some kind.

Or perhaps a comment on the reader's intelligence.

Perfectly natural human behaviour:

• All human beings criticize everything.
• All human beings ask, "Who said it?"

I suppose the tiny bit of difference between Wikipedia and the Review is that we don't treat people like dirt for doing those things.

Now it's our turn to ask, "Who said it?"

Jonny

Well... Just so people don't think we're All-Bashing, All The Time here, I have to say that User:CattleGirl seems like an unusually pleasant and even-tempered sort, particularly in contrast to the guy who just blocked (and then unblocked) her!

If he'd done that to, uh, certain other admins we know, there'd be mile-long AN/I postings and RfC's out the ying-yang.

She was ridiculously tame in her reaction. There should be mile-long AN/I postings and RfCs about it, and about all this kind of stuff he does. She's just enabling Ryulong to keep it up by not protesting.

I suppose that in future he'll double check that people aren't members of ArbCom or anything before he blocks them.

Well, let this just be a lesson to any of you out there who think it's safe to slip into inactivity for a while and do nothing more than reply to people on your talk page and vote in a few RfAs. Ryulong has no patience for your laziness, and no, he doesn't care that you've been busy in real life or whatever. Make regular mainspace contributions or you're getting blocked, freeloader. Unless you're an admin, of course, then you can slack off.

At least it restores my faith in the Dynamics Of Populist Elitism (DOPE).

If the Arsitocracy did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.

Nothing to see here, move along …

Jonny

PS. Yes, I know how I spieled it.

I didn't want to have to do this, but he really forces me to.

The BIG LIST of the TEN MOST RECENT non-User/Project-space ARTICLES that Ryūlóng has edited:

1. Murder (disambiguation)
2. Cutie Honey
3. List of Kamen Rider Den-O episodes
4. Zords in Power Rangers: Operation Overdrive
5. Power Rangers
6. Other Rangers and Ranger-like allies
7. Bubble
8. Cyber-bullying
9. Harvest Moon (series)
10. Villains in Power Rangers: Operation Overdrive

For God's sake, would someone block this editor who is obviously not contributing to an encyclopedia, and while you're at it, redirect his User page to Clown?

This is the future, folks. This is who is leading Wikipedia. This is who is making up new rules and enforcing them for the "good" of the project.

Seriously, how do grown adults not puke when they see evidence like this?

Greg

All your best office supply stores these days carry WikiPuke ProphyLaTeχ™ Screen Guards for keeping your computer monitor spic-&-span.

Duh-Duh's 100 K edits are too much for WannaBeKatesTool to handle, but here's a rough indication of where this Mutant Ninja Turdle Administrator spends its time:

Interiot Edit Summary for User:Ryulong

The Wikidashboard Tool is kinda mean to my old machine, but I'll paste a link for that later.

Wikidashboard Edit Summary for User:Ryulong

Most of the observations that one could make about the prevalences, not to mention the curious omissions, that we find in this pattern of ediot behavior will be pretty obvious to anyone who looks it over, but I'll get some more coffee and jot down a few of the more, er, transparent observations anyway.

Jonny

For #8, Cyber-bullying, who says Wikipedia doesn't like experts?

Hiya, Piperdown,

Could you pipe(down) that long url in your signature so that it doesn't stretch the page overwidth?

This one:

'en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/
IncidentArchive127#SlimVirgin_and_a_serious_abuse_of_authority'

Maybe something like:

WP:AN/I/Archive127#SlimVirgin and a serious abuse of authority

Thanks,

Jonny

I don't know how you got it long. It squishes long ones up into small ones by default.

Back to the bit about curious omissions.

I realize that many people view Wikipedia as an e-vocation, if not a total break from reality — one of the few things for which it seems e-minently suited — but I still find it just a little curious that a person majoring in Chemical Oceanography and minoring in Anthropology would have no edits that I can find on those or any related subjects.

I mean, wouldn't a Gung-Ho Vandal-Biter like Ryulong who had any of these articles on its watchlist be expected to show up every now then reverting routine vandalism if nothing else?

Indeed, the only scientific subjects that appear on the Interiot and Wikidashboard edit summaries are the articles on Ceres, Dwarf Planet, and Pluto that were recently in the news and I think showed up on the Main Page.

Maybe Ryulong is not so much an Oceanographer cum Anthropologer as a Fisher Of Men, y'know, Essjay's old job.

Jonny

At least the "Harvest Moon (series)" article doesn't seem to have all that much to do with the Power Rangers. I'd say this is a good sign - it shows that he's branching out, diversifying his interests. You could almost say he's like a semi-idealized version of the modern-day Renaissance man, even.

Back to the question, "Who Sez?"

If we believe the userboxes on Ryulong's early user pages, then s/he is a Gemini born in the year of the Rabbit. The last year of the Rabbit was 1999, so Ryulong is one of the ages 8, 20, 32, 44, 56, 68, 80, 92, 104, and so on. I'm guessing 8, but if you believe that s/he's a non-prodigal undergrad, then a "normal" age for such a student would probably be 20.

If you believe anything that anyone says on their user pages, that is.

Jonny

His totals are even more pukeworthy/entertaining, depending on your viewpoint - http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bi...n.wikipedia.org
The all time top ten (numbers to the left are total edits):
791 Juken Sentai Gekiranger
421 Power Rangers: Operation Overdrive
338 Power Rangers
332 Super Sentai
283 Kamen Rider Den-O
271 Fierce Beast-Fist Beast Arts
242 Imagin
235 Kamen Rider Den-O (character)
229 30 Sentai Encyclopedia
224 List of Kamen Rider Den-O episodes
217 GoGo Sentai Boukenger
216 List of Juken Sentai Gekiranger episodes
202 Power Rangers: Mystic Force
184 Mighty Morphin Power Rangers
182 4chan

Silly Rabbit !!! Maybe it really is 8 years old ???

Then again, you have to ask yerself : What kind of 7 year old has the time — on skool nites — to rack up just shy of 12,000 edits during the months of September and October 2006 ? That's 200 edits per day for 2 solid months !

So, yup, it has to be a college student.

After all, Dudes, this is Φlorida we're talking about … what else is there to do in a Psyberian Ghoulag like that ?

Jonny

Kudos To Us !!!

I am pleased to report that the Monsieur Nice Guy Memorial Undergraduate Testing And Nøøbölõgîcål Tutoring (MUTANT) Program has just met with unexpected but welcome success, having inspired our Pet Sea Monkey, namely, Dragon², to a newfound interest in his or her declared major of Chemically-Dependent Oceanography.

Riddle A Body Rite Cheer !

Like we say at MUTANT — Spare the 'Cane, Spoil the Child.

Jonny

And I no longer like NewYorkBrad. He and others just do not understand the threat Ryulong and those like him pose to Wikipedia.

I can tell Brad's a lawyer by spinning the negative traits of Ryulong into a positive. He's convinced the Community to pull a Donald Trump and give someone, who doesn't deserve a second chance, a fourth or fifth chance! If Brad were Saddam's lawyer at the trial, Hussein would be back in Baghdad leading Iraq again!

(Yes, I am aware many here are lawyers. You guys are ok.... I think.)

NYB's just another UberBoolSh*tter playing Good Cop to the Bawdy/Thatcher/Flo/SV bad cop show.
Even Cla68 is falling for NYB, but then Cla68 has to be exaggeratedly diplomatic and put up with the BS anyway to continue his quest to make wikipedia what it should be. I was unable to maintain diplomacy in the face of complete rottenness that I found in a 6 month tenure on WP. I expected the "community" to learn something from the Essjay Ixnay when I made my wikidebut with hope springing eternal.

WP just got worse, like any other rotten corrupt organization does when caught cold, and scrambles to duck and cover. The Nixon Admiinstration ca. 1973 comes to mind. Tapes were found (edit dumps), sectretarial blanking in all the key places was found (oversight!), etc.

WP needs a Gerry Ford to come in and send some tricky dicks off on a golden parachuted helicopter, and declare the long wikinational nightmare is over. Ha! Right.

NYB has a great gift of understatement: "Ryulong's RfA was closed as successful by a famously narrow margin". (For newcomers, he got below 70% but was promoted by Raul654 on the grounds that he liked him so never mind the usual rules.) However, I am almost wondering if NYB is being tongue in cheek:


That's a thorough ticking-off, if Ryulong will listen.

It's still fascinating


8 months later and after numerous people have called for him to reassess his behavior including Jaranda in a recall request...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryu...en_to_recall.3F


Come on guys...it's as simple as that.

Ryulong is a sock of another made-man admin as a fallback. There is absolutely no way that individual is a full-time student in the sciences at Miami University and has a SlimVirginesque round the clock/week/year editing history. Miami used to be a party/jock school, but the fields of study that Ryulong ((hmmm....phonetically that comes out as "Are you long [stocks]"? - just a humourous side bar) purports to be doing require extensive lab and field involvement. As someone pointed out, he has made NO contributions to articles related to his supposed major until he was pointed out here, then the avid WR reader R-u-long made sophomoric edits to a jellyfish article.

His Miami U. status is right up there with Essjay's PhD's, and Mantanmoreland's Jesuitness. It's bool.

At least Slimmy didn't lie about herself on her "Please Love Me!" User page.

One of the things I was trying to introduce on the ill-fated Wiki-Abuse site was for the pages to highlight who was "open to recall" and who wasn't. A mere slither or token gesture towards some kind of accountability, no matter how futile, as I'm not sure anyone has ever been recalled by that process.

Ruylong's status became a bone of contention on Wiki-Abuse. A few WR types and some lunatic or other from elsewhere didn't seem to grasp my point regarding "recall", and began edit warring with me over this, including when I insisted that Ruylong had in fact withdrawn his "open to recall" status. Which turned out to be correct as we know.

But I was trying to drive a wedge into the sealed tower of admin immunity, admittedly using a 2½ inch hammer. If admins were obliged (nay expected) to state on their pages whether they were "open to recall" the whole concept would gain ground. At the time I imagined that discussions would be on the increase at WP, and some kind of standard would be established. 5 other admins or established users would need to sign a recall statement and the admin would have to face rfa again, that type of thing. However, no progress was made on this at WP, and Wiki-Abuse disintegrated at the hands of the usual wiki-lunacy.

To be fair, I have never contributed to articles directly relevant to my degree. It's best to avoid being a real expert on Wikipedia. Still, an aggressive admin wouldn't have to worry about that.

So then we can look for admins who did lots of edits to articles, see who fits his profile like age, education background, religion Jewish, moved from New York to Florida for college (or is in either state), etc. Then we can find his second admin account!

So far here what wikipedia watch finds for similar IPs. Maybe one of these is a suspect.

armyriad (i=metroman@pool-70-23-163-219.ny325.east.verizon.net) 70.23.163.219
armyriad (n=yamijack@pool-70-23-136-198.ny325.east.verizon.net) 70.23.136.198
armyriad (n=yamijack@pool-70-23-195-98.ny325.east.verizon.net) 70.23.195.98
buridan (n=shitznic@pool-70-23-55-95.ny325.east.verizon.net) 70.23.55.95
TRWBW (n=newsback@pool-70-23-248-105.ny325.east.verizon.net) 70.23.248.105
UUCP (n=uucp@pool-70-23-231-225.ny325.east.verizon.net) 70.23.231.225

There's enough there to block them all as sockpuppets.