Tue 25th March 2008, 12:14am
QUOTE(Kato @ Mon 24th March 2008, 6:35pm)
ChrisO writes to Jayjg:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=200398698
:Using your mailing list again to round up !voters for this AfD? It's odd how the usual suspects all suddenly appear at once.
And of course he's right. Here we see
Avi, IZAK and 6SJI7 come to Jayjg's rescue again. Jossi usually makes an appearance on these pages to back Jayjg up as well, regardless of how damaging the content is.
Jayjg and crew insist on creating, then keeping the most POV material possible as part of this horrendous endless campaign of theirs. The content is an insult to people who believed they were contributing to an "encyclopedia", and their shared activity is a disgrace that has completely debased the process for a long time.
The fact that numerous Arbitrations and Requests for Comment have failed to stop this is testament to the poverty of Wikipedia's dispute resolution procedures.
The "poverty" of Wikipedia's dispute and resolution process results from the fact that it says it's not a democracy, while at the same time settling most things by voting. Requiring a supramajority, to be sure, but voting just the same. This democratic component, which WP will not admit, as per WP:NOT, causes them to be very upset with "canvassing," "sockpuppeting," and so on. Which are impossible to prevent, since they depend on anonymity (which is in turn the deathray of any democratic process). So they're pretty much stuck. With two conflicting components of their system, democracy and anonymity, neither of which they will deal with.
But note the colorful use of first, second and third person personal-pronoun guided terminology. It's sort of like "I am worldly, you are sexually experienced, she is a slut." Or "I am concerned for providing financial security for my family, you are acquisitive, he is a greed-head."
At Wikipedia it goes like this: "I have administrators who are friends. You have people who are supporters. He has meatpuppets and can't prove they aren't socks." Or "I use mailing list contacts effectively. You ask your supporters for help. He canvasses his meats to get what he wants."