Sat 29th March 2008, 4:17pm
QUOTE(Viridae @ Sat 29th March 2008, 10:12am)
I disagree that he has learnt nothing, I think he has learnt a great deal actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Adm...erious_question
he has learnt to admit his handling of the issue might be wrong and to ask the community for their advice. I think that is a big step. I would have agreed that he had not learnt if he had not posted that question thread though.
I think you make a good observation. I also think that there are a lot of unhelpful responses along the lines of - Guy you just go on doing what you are doing.
I would offer two observations to Guy: what is the point of having a policy of assuming the best of people if you feel that you know better (and isn't it better saying that in words rather than spraying acronyms around?). In this particular case we can recognise that the approach was appropriate, even if you did not like the message.
Secondly, the appropriate response would simply be to use the argument you have used: you perceive these groups as a bit of harmless fun, therefore do not see it as appropriate to take any admin action. If as a user, you disagree, you can use the deletion discussion mechanism to try and establish a consensus.
So, no need for trolls, no need for bans, and I am extremely concerned about the number of admins who say "Well aimed block, Guy" because it was unnecessary. That is the most concerning change in attitude over the last couple of years. Note that nobody tried to discuss the problem to see whether the perceived problem was for real. That is the real problem. Again, this is more about friends of Guy giving him the wrong feedback, not Guy himself.