Fri 5th September 2008, 11:12am
QUOTE(Sceptre @ Thu 4th September 2008, 1:50pm)
Whether he is civil or not, he can be a lot nicer; instead of saying "AC are incompetent", say that you "think that the AC consistently pass poor decisions". They mean the same, but in such a bureaucratic and collegiate system, it's necessary to use flowery language to make such a strong point; again, look at Churchill.]
Winston Spencer Churchill?
The man who said of Sir Stafford Cripps "There but for the grace of God goes God" ?
The man who said of Clement Atlee "A modest man, who has much to be modest about" ?
The man who described one of his own party defecting to the liberals as "The only recorded instance in history of a rat swimming towards a sinking ship" ?
The man who recounted to parliament the story of his parents taking him as a child to see P.T. Barnum's cavalcade of freaks, and then looked across the dispatch box at Ramsay MacDonald, proclaiming " ...and I have waited fifty years, to see The Boneless Wonder sitting on the Treasury Bench" ?
Don't even get me started on his clashes with Lady Nancy Astor or Bessie Braddock.
Churchill was so scathing and blunt he makes Giano look like a Manchu dynasty career diplomat.
Of course you could have been referring to this Churchill:
but if not...READ MOAR!
QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Thu 4th September 2008, 2:12pm)
Now in the wider context, the point is that civility has become a game and sometimes it will be used as a weapon, but very inconsistently: "provoked - so that is alright" or "I am not going to look at the context as that diff gives me all I need" and further the punishments vary wildly from "ban on sight" to "well done for saying that, it was the troll that wos to blamet, gov, honest."
What needs to change is attitude, not rules. Everyone should treat each other with as much courtesy as is possible, and at the same time have as thick a skin as possible. Admins can manage that change in attitude by setting the right example, and if they are not prepared to set the right example then they should not be admins. The same goes for those who want to be considered Wikipedia's finest contributors. These are not new concepts, there is nothing inherently different about Wikipedia that needs a new social code inventing.
Won't happen, because it is all a game, not an encyclopedia.
Quoted for farkin truth!