Is there any encyclopedic value in including penis size in the infobox?

Ron Jeremy is listed at 9.5 inches:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jeremy

But John Holmes isn't listed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holmes_(actor)

However, there is an entire section discussing how big it may have been:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holmes_(actor)#Penis_size

Would adding Jimbo Wales' penis size be acceptable?

That probably depends how desirable what's written portrays him as being. (as with all men, I imagine.)

It should surely be "claimed" or "billed" penis size. Wrestlers have their "billed" heights and weights listed, so it should be the same.

I'm no expert on large penises, but some of the claims are extravagant.

The phrasing in other articles is interesting, as with Peter North:



Also the line "North is known for having an exceptionally large penis both in length and girth" - surely it would be more worthy of note if he had a small penis in the adult industry?

Yes but remember about citing sources. Also, you have to find reliable sources. And most importantly, you are not allowed to do any original research !

ewwww!

Average penis size according to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_size

5.1–5.9in
5.08in
5.35in
5.9in
5.0in

That whole article should just be a section in penis, if anything at all.

An obviously stupid question. The articles that mention penis size are for porno film actors. Jimbo isn't a porno film actor, and so quite obviously it should not be mentioned.

Really, stupid question.

Why are there articles about these sorts of people in an encyclopedia?

The cum total of human knowledge?

But why does the size of a porn star's penis matter? And some have their shoe sizes listed!

Ron Jeremy is well-established outside of the porn scenem fair enough, but 90 per cent of those with articles have no real world notability outside of their environment,

I suppose if the size of his penis was discussed non-trivially in multiple reliable sources, then perhaps it would be appropriate to be mentioned.

Trying to compare those articles to Jimmy Wales's article just is silly though.

... surely a rhetorical question?

The specific sizes! Given they are the "billed" rather than the claimed. John Holmes was never anywhere near 13 inches, for instance.

And you are know this with such certitude how?

We could, but he'd keep removing the part about "two inches".

A whole section on speculation seems silly. If it was a big issue in the media then the issue's coverage could be mentioned though.

It looks like "Penis Size" was part of the original "Adult male bio" template, only the fieldname was (and is) "measurements," with the words "Penis Size" substituted automatically. The infobox was added to the Ron Jeremy (T-H-L-K-D) article by Tregoweth (T-C-L-K-R-D) in this edit.

Someone called Neitherday (T-C-L-K-R-D) later merged the the male-specific pornstar template with the female-specific one to create Template:Adult bio (T-H-L-K-D), on Sept. 27, 2007, using a new field called "measureispenis" to distinguish the "measurements" field from female measurements (presumably bust size, waistline, etc.). This was apparently part of an overall attempt to "streamline" things, over the objections of the ever-vigilant AnonEMouse (T-C-L-K-R-D) , as can be seen on the relevant talk page entry. Streamlining is essential when dealing with pornstars, as I'm sure we're all well aware.

Putting aside the whole question of whether or not penis sizes are appropriate for a general-reference encyclopedia, I think the important thing here is that Wikipedia is providing the very thing that people have needed since the internet was originally invented by Al Gore: A searchable, indexable, sortable database of male-pornstar penis sizes, which will finally allow the average consumer to make intelligent, well-informed choices as to which pornographic videos and films to buy and collect. (This, of course, assumes that the quality of any given porno is directly proportional to the penis sizes of the male actors who appear in them, but I think that's something we can all agree on.)

As if the two were mutually exclusive.

These porn star biographies are a truly awful corner of Wikipedia - most of these BLPs are completely unsourced, or sourced wholly to questionable commercial sites, not reliable sources, and many of them carry spammy links, too. This is an area that needs to be seriously trimmed down.

Next time you run into Jimbo, ask him to whip it out.

And as long as Jeremy wants to hang out here, let's see HIS.

[Mod note: split, with off-topic posts moved to the Tar Pit. -- gomi]