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bambi
http://civilination.org/news/about-2/board-of-directors/

Share your stories of online hostility on this website, and see if Jimbo is hostile toward your story.

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dtobias
Perhaps Cla68 can post there about how his admin nomination on Wikipedia was torpedoed by Slim & co.
Jon Awbrey
QUOTE(bambi @ Wed 30th December 2009, 11:22am) *

http://civilination.org/news/about-2/board-of-directors/

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'Nuff Said

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GlassBeadGame
That is one sparse and harsh looking site. All those red, black and white blocks. It screams Nazism.
CharlotteWebb
QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Wed 30th December 2009, 5:19pm) *

That is one sparse and harsh looking site. All those red, black and white blocks. It screams Nazism.

The second paragraph here arguably contradicts itself.

The gutter press offer a few stale anecdotes about the founders of the up-and-coming marching care-bear project.

I will say the name is goofier than anything Sanger could have come up with. When I saw it my first thought was "some kind of computer game".

After Sid Meier complains, Jimbo and Andrea will adopt a familiar *ci → *e syllable shift, mark my words.
Somey
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Wed 30th December 2009, 12:01pm) *
The gutter press offer a few stale anecdotes about the founders of the up-and-coming marching care-bear project.

Here's the Valleywag article that first suggested the possibility of a romantic relationship between Jimbo and Andrea Weckerle. I dunno... it just seems a little weird to have two people who are dating get together to create a website whose purpose is to lecture the rest of the world about "civility." Is that their solution to the civility problem? Dinner and a movie, then maybe back to the condo for let's-just-see-how-it-goes? That's not "civility," that's "nookie." Two different things.

I'm sure she's very nice if you meet her in person, though! smile.gif
Kelly Martin
This looks very Randroidish to me.

I think it would be best for anyone who has had an "incivil" encounter on Wikipedia to report it on their comments thread. I'm sure they'll all be deleted, but the point will be made, nonetheless.
GlassBeadGame
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 30th December 2009, 1:22pm) *

This looks very Randroidish to me.

I think it would be best for anyone who has had an "incivil" encounter on Wikipedia to report it on their comments thread. I'm sure they'll all be deleted, but the point will be made, nonetheless.


A Nazi is just a Randoid who stumbles into state power.
CharlotteWebb
QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 30th December 2009, 6:16pm) *

Is that their solution to the civility problem? Dinner and a movie, then maybe back to the condo for let's-just-see-how-it-goes? That's not "civility," that's "nookie." Two different things.

Worked for John and Yoko. laugh.gif
thekohser
This is priceless. I've added my story:

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Back in 2006, the co-founder of a popular website publicly announced that my approach to the site (one he had helped shape) was “deeply unethical and inappropriate”, and he deleted an article that I had authored and mentioned online. Even though it wasn’t written for payment, and the subject company wasn’t even aware of the article, the co-founder mistakenly assumed it was paid content and thusly labeled it “corporate spam”. Then he indefinitely blocked my user account on the popular website, so that it could not edit any more. Some hours later, the co-founder returned to the popular website to further blast my article, calling it a “travesty of NPOV [neutral point of view]” and “corporate fluff”.

It took him about two years to finally work up the courage to publicly apologize to me for how poorly he handled the situation.

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anthony
This whole thread reminded me to check up on one of Jimbo's other projects.
thekohser
QUOTE(anthony @ Wed 30th December 2009, 1:41pm) *

This whole thread reminded me to check up on one of Jimbo's other projects.


Just one? Don't forget about OpenServing.com and Search.Wikia.com!
Somey
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Wed 30th December 2009, 12:36pm) *
QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 30th December 2009, 6:16pm) *
Is that their solution to the civility problem? Dinner and a movie, then maybe back to the condo for let's-just-see-how-it-goes? That's not "civility," that's "nookie." Two different things.
Worked for John and Yoko. laugh.gif

No it didn't...

Besides, what John and Yoko were trying to do was a form of passive protest against a war, using their notoriety to draw attention to a problem. What Jimbo and Andrea are trying to do, assuming this isn't all just a big joke, is direct exploitation of an ongoing problem, using their notoriety to, in effect, gain more notoriety. (The fact that they will fail miserably notwithstanding.)

Another thing that's interesting about this is that the Wikia site currently has no links whatsoever back to civilination.org. Not one! Even the Aweckerle user page doesn't have one. However, it does say "Hi, I am Andrea, the founder of CiviliNation." Presumably if this takes off, Andrea and Jimbo will have a long, drawn-out argument over whether or not Jimbo is actually the founder.

But the ultimate hypocrisy, of course, is the "Support/Donate" page, which states:
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By making a donation today, you are supporting CiviliNation’s efforts to create an online culture in which individuals can fully engage and contribute without fear or threat of being the target of unwarranted abuse, harassment, or lies.

In other words, Jimbo has set up a super-popular means for the rest of the world to heap abuse, harassment and lies on you, and now you can give money to Jimbo and his girlfriend so that they can talk about how awful this is, on another site that nobody ever reads!

And check out the logo:
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I mean, at this point they really are just laughing their asses off at the rest of us. You'd think they could just go to a comedy club, or maybe read a funny book or go to a funny movie, but noooo - they have to do this.

Frankly, these people are hypocritical scum of the worst kind, and it's about time people who really care about "civility" did something to stop them.
Somey
The comments section for Jimbo+Andrea's Wall Street Journal editorial are hilarious, by the way. You have to go past the first page before you get anything that isn't an argument about Fox News and the Obama Administration, but they only get better after that. laugh.gif

At least the right-wingers aren't being fooled by any of this...
bambi
The comments section of The Register article is somewhat (ahem) negative also.
Kelly Martin
It's pretty clear to me after reading the Reg article that Jimmy created this to bitch about Valleywag, the Reg, and this site. It amuses me that he thinks of himself as the victim here.
Somey
In case my comment on the Reg article gets moderated out of existence (though I don't see why it would, given what the other commenters are saying):
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The sheer, unbridled arrogance, hypocrisy, narcissism, and utter lack of self-awareness being displayed by Mr. Wales and Ms. Weckerle here are... well, totally predictable and par for the course, actually!

The thing is, on Wikipedia, accusing someone else of failing to be civil is, itself, considered a "civility violation." Wikipedia doesn't have a civil or civilized community, what they have is enforced civility, and the people enforcing it are usually 15-year-olds who are given ban-buttons and precious little else with which to do it. Meanwhile, the current motto on Ms. Weckerle's personal blog is "Attack life, wait for nothing." Yeah, that sounds really civil to me, too.
Somey
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 30th December 2009, 2:19pm) *

It's pretty clear to me after reading the Reg article that Jimmy created this to bitch about Valleywag, the Reg, and this site. It amuses me that he thinks of himself as the victim here.

I agree - Valleywag is clearly the main target, and WR is probably just a sideswipe (or "afterthought," or whatever the word is, I'm sure you get the general idea). I mean, right now, if you type "Jimbo Wales is an idiot" into Google, we're not even on the first page, whereas if you type in "Jimbo Wales Andrea Weckerle," our thread on the Valleywag article is #2 and the Valleywag article itself is #4. (In both cases the Jimmy Wales WP article is #1, of course, but Jimbo's not the sort to be satisfied with personal control over the #1 result, is he?)

Appropriately enough, the Jimmy Wales' Other Other Women article, featuring Ms. Weckerle and the presumably wealthier, and more Canadian Louise Blouin MacBain, appeared on Valleywag exactly a year ago. (Civilination.org was registered on Aug. 24, 2009, using DomainsByProxy - which, I suppose, means they agree with the rest of us that the need for accountability ends just before the point where you're targeted with massive amounts of domain-registrar spam.)

I'm proud of the fact that we're still the #1 result for "jimbo wales hypocrite," at least. I guess they just wanted to throw us a bone.
Jon Awbrey
Meanwhile, Back @ CiviliNazi.Com …

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Jon Awbrey
Channeling Shakespeare, Burgess, and Moulton @ WSJ

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thekohser
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CiviliNation is a Virginia non-profit organization in the process of obtaining federal 501©(3) status.
Krimpet
Jimbo and his beau (Jimbo & Jimbeau?) don't seem to realize that simply being "civil" means very little. You can maintain a cheery, polite façade in every word you write, carefully crafting your remarks to avoid insult or vitriol, while still being diabolical and manipulative. It's the attitude behind the words that actually counts. It takes all kinds, and I'd personally prefer dealing with a blunt and honest person to a civil yet slippery one.
Kelly Martin
QUOTE(Krimpet @ Wed 30th December 2009, 11:44pm) *
Jimbo and his beau (Jimbo & Jimbeau?) don't seem to realize that simply being "civil" means very little. You can maintain a cheery, polite façade in every word you write, carefully crafting your remarks to avoid insult or vitriol, while still being diabolical and manipulative. It's the attitude behind the words that actually counts. It takes all kinds, and I'd personally prefer dealing with a blunt and honest person to a civil yet slippery one.
Jimmy's entire approach to life relies on manipulating people while maintaining a cheery, polite facade. Wikipedia, which is crafted in his image, does not tolerate blunt honesty any more than he does.
anthony
QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 30th December 2009, 6:44pm) *

QUOTE(anthony @ Wed 30th December 2009, 1:41pm) *

This whole thread reminded me to check up on one of Jimbo's other projects.


Just one? Don't forget about OpenServing.com and Search.Wikia.com!


I assume Jimbo was a little bit more into those (especially Search Wikia, as building a search engine is something he's been interested in for a quite a while now). This one, like the homeless project, seems to be just something he lent his name to and participates in half-heartedly.
thekohser
The CiviliNation wiki, hosted (with advertising that I doubt goes into the pending 501-c-3) on Wikia, Inc. servers, just got a little bit more accurate.
Jon Awbrey
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thekohser
QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 31st December 2009, 9:53am) *

The CiviliNation wiki, hosted (with advertising that I doubt goes into the pending 501-c-3) on Wikia, Inc. servers, just got a little bit more accurate.



Hmm... that's odd...

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Your user name or IP address has been blocked.

The block was made by Angela.

* Reason given: Kohs trolling
* Start of block: 23:08, December 31, 2009
* Expiry of block: infinity
* Intended blockee: Answer Ape
* Block ID: #4800
* Current IP address: 69.xxx.yyy.zz



Angela, you are a worthless coward. Happy new year to you and that weasel you work with at Wikia.


I would encourage anyone in the world to help keep the following content inserted in cybercivility.wikia.com:

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In October 2006, Jimmy Wales publicly [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wikipedia Review&diff=prev&oldid=79585610 announced] that the Wikipedia Review approach to Wikipedia (an approach that Wales himself, six weeks earlier, had helped to shape) was “deeply unethical and inappropriate”, and he [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=Arch+Coal&year=2006&month=10&tagfilter= deleted] the Wikipedia article about Arch Coal that Wikipedia Review had authored and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Editing_with_a_conflict_of_interest&diff=prev&oldid=79593222 mentioned] online. Even though it wasn’t written for payment, and the Arch Coal company wasn’t even aware of the article, Wales mistakenly assumed it was paid content and thusly labeled it “corporate spam”. Then he indefinitely [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=User%3AWikipedia Review&year=2006&month=10&tagfilter= blocked] the Wikipedia Review user account on Wikipedia, so that it could not edit any more. Some hours later, Wales returned to Wikipedia to further blast the article about Arch Coal, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_October_5&diff=prev&oldid=79737021 calling it] a “travesty of NPOV [neutral point of view]” and “corporate fluff”.  Wales also went to the blocked Wikipedia Review User page on Wikipedia and wrote a screed against the business there: "hiring Wikipedia Review... is counterproductive and unethical".  One of his [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peter_M_Dodge/Outreach minions] then put the polemic in white lettering on a black background, just to make it stand out more.



It took Wales over two years to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AArch_Coal&diff=258731121&oldid=224255965 finally apologize] for how he acted and how poorly he handled the situation.  Now Wales is admonishing others, through CiviliNation, to be nice to others on the Internet.  Do as I say, not as I do, we suppose.
EricBarbour
QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 31st December 2009, 10:12pm) *
Angela, you are a worthless coward. Happy new year to you and that weasel you work with at Wikia.

And you're a brave one, you are, Gregg-O.

(Nope, sorry, I won't touch this. Just ignore the whole thing. I suspect that this wiki
will die out from lack of interest. The juice-drinkers don't want "civility", they want to
have power.....to abuse others with no consequences. This wiki would accomplish nothing
for them--it won't even give them that bizarre wiki editing high.)

The more of this shit I see, the more I think Jimbo's got some kid of evil brain power
that allows him to glamour people, and enslave them (or at least make them stalk him).

Like a vampire. Or better, like Rachel on Misfits.
Now, if only Jimbo would fall off a roof. tongue.gif
anthony
QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 31st December 2009, 2:53pm) *

The CiviliNation wiki, hosted (with advertising that I doubt goes into the pending 501-c-3) on Wikia, Inc. servers, just got a little bit more accurate.


Now now Greg, stop trolling. You know that Wikia and CiviliNation are completely separate.
thekohser
They're calling in reinforcements at Wikia's CiviliNation.

Looks like there were a lot of new accounts made today -- none of those I'll quote here were mine, by the way.

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# 14:07, January 1, 2010 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Angela loves the taste of a good dick (Talk | contribs) New user account ‎
# 14:06, January 1, 2010 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! This user creation interface is crammed with squares and rectangles (Talk | contribs) New user account ‎
# 14:05, January 1, 2010 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Jimmy and his gold-plated washing machine (Talk | contribs) New user account ‎
# 14:03, January 1, 2010 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Angela likes big thangs in the mouth (Talk | contribs) New user account


What a shame, that a site intended to stamp out meanies on the Internet would attract so many meanies!
wikademia.org
QUOTE(Krimpet @ Wed 30th December 2009, 9:44pm) *

Jimbo and his beau (Jimbo & Jimbeau?) don't seem to realize that simply being "civil" means very little. You can maintain a cheery, polite façade in every word you write, carefully crafting your remarks to avoid insult or vitriol, while still being diabolical and manipulative. It's the attitude behind the words that actually counts. It takes all kinds, and I'd personally prefer dealing with a blunt and honest person to a civil yet slippery one.




i would hope to deal with humans who are civil, polite, respectful, honest, and considerate... or at least try to do all those things...


rather than just one who mindlessly follows policies, avoids being "a d----", avoids legal threats, ignores all rules, and bla bla bla bla bla.


but the world ain't a perfect one, so oh well. smile.gif <3
Jon Awbrey
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I begin to get the feeling that Dubya, Dubya, and Company are not really serious about collecting Our Stories of Online Hostility huh.gif

Say It Ain't So, Jimbo ohmy.gif

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Somey
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 1st January 2010, 3:39am) *
Just ignore the whole thing. I suspect that this wiki will die out from lack of interest.

It already has. The recent "trolling" appears to be the most action it's seen since its inception.

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Now, if only Jimbo would fall off a roof.

I doubt any self-respecting roof would let him get anywhere near it...!
everyking
QUOTE(Krimpet @ Thu 31st December 2009, 6:44am) *

Jimbo and his beau (Jimbo & Jimbeau?) don't seem to realize that simply being "civil" means very little. You can maintain a cheery, polite façade in every word you write, carefully crafting your remarks to avoid insult or vitriol, while still being diabolical and manipulative. It's the attitude behind the words that actually counts. It takes all kinds, and I'd personally prefer dealing with a blunt and honest person to a civil yet slippery one.


First of all, we can easily police name-calling and profanity--we really can't police slick manipulation. Secondly, even a slick manipulator contributes to a calm and peaceful atmosphere by refraining from angry outbursts when under stress. At the end of the day, you can maintain a community even when a lot of polite manipulation occurs, but you can't maintain a community when people are screaming at each other all the time. Real life is no different.
Somey
QUOTE(everyking @ Sat 2nd January 2010, 1:38pm) *
First of all, we can easily police name-calling and profanity--we really can't police slick manipulation. Secondly, even a slick manipulator contributes to a calm and peaceful atmosphere by refraining from angry outbursts when under stress. At the end of the day, you can maintain a community even when a lot of polite manipulation occurs, but you can't maintain a community when people are screaming at each other all the time. Real life is no different.

This is all wrong, EK.

First, we've all seen on Wikipedia, and with other dysfunctional communities (including families), that if you impose artificial civility requirements, people will simply redefine the terms involved - so that comments which would be seen as harmless by anyone else become "personal attacks" within the dysfunctional community.

Second, this is clearly "all or nothing" thinking. Adjusting the civility requirements to be more in line with real-world term definitions won't result in "people are screaming at each other all the time," it will result in people using easily-recognized conflict words some of the time, hopefully when the situation actually calls for it. What you have now is a situation where people who have been fully inculcated into the cult community have one standard, and people who haven't been inculcated have another, and the former group uses their higher standard as a cudgel against the latter group. This is how cults should work, and do work - but not encyclopedias.

Third, what does the phrase "maintain the community" really mean? Presumably it means the three basic tasks of keeping people around, bringing new people in, and getting rid of undesirables. Artificial civility rules don't do a very good job of any of those things - they represent short-term, limited thinking, the idea that if WP'ers are forced to be nice to people on the surface, they'll stick around long enough to allow themselves to be indoctrinated, and/or addicted. That isn't going to work forever, assuming it ever did. Besides, WP's focus has always been on bringing more people in, often at the expense of the other two things.

There's no fourth thing, but that's only because I have to go and do something non-internet-related now.
Kelly Martin
QUOTE(Somey @ Sat 2nd January 2010, 1:59pm) *
Artificial civility rules don't do a very good job of any of those things - they represent short-term, limited thinking, the idea that if WP'ers are forced to be nice to people on the surface, they'll stick around long enough to allow themselves to be indoctrinated, and/or addicted. That isn't going to work forever, assuming it ever did. Besides, WP's focus has always been on bringing more people in, often at the expense of the other two things.
And that's the real point of the civility rules: don't scare off the recruits until you've got them addicted. The problem that Wikipedia needs to get past, in this area at least, is that quantity is no substitute for quality. But Wikipedia's leadership is not interested in quality, and so nothing will be done.
TungstenCarbide
QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 1st January 2010, 6:12am) *
Angela, you are a worthless coward. Happy new year to you and that weasel you work with at Wikia.

Greg, this kind of comment is uncalled for. I think you should apologize to her. She's neither worthless or a coward.
Emperor
QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 1st January 2010, 4:39am) *


The more of this shit I see, the more I think Jimbo's got some kid of evil brain power
that allows him to glamour people, and enslave them (or at least make them stalk him).

Like a vampire. ...



Jimbo is a stud. I can only hope to become half the godking he is.

QUOTE(Somey @ Sat 2nd January 2010, 2:59pm) *


First, we've all seen on Wikipedia, and with other dysfunctional communities (including families), that if you impose artificial civility requirements, people will simply redefine the terms involved - so that comments which would be seen as harmless by anyone else become "personal attacks" within the dysfunctional community.


Nice observation.
anthony
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 1st January 2010, 6:12am) *
Angela, you are a worthless coward. Happy new year to you and that weasel you work with at Wikia.

Greg, this kind of comment is uncalled for. I think you should apologize to her. She's neither worthless or a coward.


In all honesty I think any anger you have directed at Angela is probably misplaced.
WordBomb
QUOTE(bambi @ Wed 30th December 2009, 9:22am) *
http://civilination.org/news/about-2/board-of-directors/

Share your stories of online hostility on this website, and see if Jimbo is hostile toward your story.
While my story of incivility remains held for moderation, to his credit I did get email from Jimbo this morning asking me to forward him the email I referenced in my comment. I did so, and am hopeful of hearing back from him about it.

In the meantime, here's what I submitted:
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It’s ironic that Jimbo Wales, co-founder of Wikipedia, would be on the board of this group, considering Wikipedia is one of the most hostile online environments I’ve encountered.

Here’s my story.

I discovered that a former journalist was violating multiple Wikipedia policies in the course of dramatically skewing articles relating to a specific form of stock market fraud. Basically, he was trying to cover the crime up. I blogged about what I had found, and one day, discovered a Wikipedia article about me had been created. It’s sources were comprised of nothing but this former journalist and his friends. The article was grossly slanted.

Recently, I’ve come to possess a series of private email exchanges in which this article is discussed. The person who created it admits that he did it to harm me. He was proud of that fact.

Jimbo Wales was on that email list, but did nothing.

Fortunately, the article was eventually removed, no thanks to Mr. Wales.

(Your comment is awaiting moderation.)
Because the content of those emails would be of interest to folks here, I've started a new thread about it. You can read it here.
dtobias
My comment is still "awaiting moderation" too:

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I was called an “obsessive trolling idiot” by a powerful administrator on a popular website because I took a stand against attempts by that administrator and his friends to suppress criticism of the site.


Only two comments have actually been approved, one from somebody named Jimmy who's openly gay and has been gay-bashed (obviously not Wales, since his known sleeping-around has been purely heterosexual), and somebody named Linda praising the WSJ article.

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RDH(Ghost In The Machine)
So this is Whimbo's answer to incivility-the creation of virtual "gated communities" where a faux facade of civility is selectively enforced.
I personally would rather live in Bartertown than in his pathetic attempt to create a Galttown online.

Really Jimmy, please clean up the dump in your own yard before trying to tell others how to keep theirs!
Piperdown
Wasn't "Jimmy" Wales the guy who once uttered "shoot on sight" in the WP Wagon Circling around Gary Weiss's victim act?

Yup.

So much for civility. Once a putz always a putz.
wikademia.org
QUOTE(RDH(Ghost In The Machine) @ Sat 2nd January 2010, 6:35pm) *

So this is Whimbo's answer to incivility-the creation of virtual "gated communities" where a faux facade of civility is selectively enforced.
I personally would rather live in Bartertown than in his pathetic attempt to create a Galttown online.

Really Jimmy, please clean up the dump in your own yard before trying to tell others how to keep theirs!


interesting you point this out...

one thing that really i wonder about is /culture/.... maybe this is their norm.... maybe this is what they are used to... what a shame to be reared that way though, maybe. hrmph.gif hrphh.. ... maybe all that /is/ culturally /acceptable/ to them... maybe that is what they are used to and they don't know any better.... but ya... if it is culture, or even if it is not.. then it is sort of like a /gated/ community as you say.... and perhaps there is a faux facade... i dunno. hrmph.gif hrrph.
Somey
QUOTE(dtobias @ Sat 2nd January 2010, 8:09pm) *
Only two comments have actually been approved, one from somebody named Jimmy who's openly gay and has been gay-bashed (obviously not Wales, since his known sleeping-around has been purely heterosexual), and somebody named Linda praising the WSJ article.

It's odd, because Ms. Weckerle doesn't moderate the comments on her personal site, though she claims to do so.

This is currently what's on her Policy Page:
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  • Feel free to post your thoughts and feedback. You may question or debate this blog’s content or comments, but be civil and productive in doing so.
  • Use your real name. This blog’s posts are written under a real name, and commenters are expected to provide their real names as well.
  • Anonymous comments won’t be accepted.
  • Comments that contain insults, rude or offensive or abusive language, threats, or are personal attacks on someone’s character, are not permitted. This is a moderated site and comments that fall outside these parameters will not be published.
  • Anyone who violates this Comments Policy may be blocked from future commenting on this blog.

This page is itself a blog entry, so people are allowed to comment on it. Here's the sole comment for the "Policy" entry, dated May 11, 2009:
QUOTE(fattUtews @ May 11, 2009 at 4:58 pm)
I have just found this great forum with the subject on the organic farming.
http://www.organic-farming.org
Great ways to eat only good and healthy food. To prepere yourself for upcoming years of hunger.
http://www.organic-farming.org

There are arround 1000 members and 10000 of threads for you to read and participate in most likely one of the biggest problems on earth!
http://www.organic-farming.org


Admittedly, WR's own blog isn't maintained as well as it should be, but at least we took the trouble to install Akismet? Compared to spam, incivility is a trifling problem on the internets, and you'll find very few people willing to argue against that assertion.
tarantino
Jimmy and Andrea apparently met in October 2007 when she interviewed him in San Francisco.

Here's a photo of them sharing a quiet dinner at Eve's in October 2008.
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thekohser
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 1st January 2010, 6:12am) *
Angela, you are a worthless coward. Happy new year to you and that weasel you work with at Wikia.

Greg, this kind of comment is uncalled for. I think you should apologize to her. She's neither worthless or a coward.


Why do you come to her defense? I am willing to discuss her removal of my freely-licensed content from the website where my contribution was expressly requested. I will discuss it on Wikia, or on Wikipedia Review. Where is she?
TungstenCarbide
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QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sat 2nd January 2010, 7:23pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 1st January 2010, 6:12am) *
Angela, you are a worthless coward. Happy new year to you and that weasel you work with at Wikia.
Greg, this kind of comment is uncalled for. I think you should apologize to her. She's neither worthless or a coward.

Why do you come to her defense? I am willing to discuss her removal of my freely-licensed content from the website where my contribution was expressly requested. I will discuss it on Wikia, or on Wikipedia Review. Where is she?

This site can't be taken seriously if the things people say here are wrong. Angela is no coward and she's not worthless. You're wrong, Greg, and your comments were uncalled for. She didn't do anything to merit that type of nastiness. You should apologize to her.
Somey
QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Sun 3rd January 2010, 11:23am) *
This site can't be taken seriously if the things people say here are wrong. Angela is no coward and she's not worthless.

Angela Beesley is a courageous warrior for the cause of freedom (assuming that by "freedom," we mean the freedom of websites all over the world to operate without the participation of Gregory Kohs).

Of course, I should note that back in 2001, Bill Maher got fired from ABC for saying that it "took a lot of guts" for the 9/11 terrorists to fly airplanes into skyscrapers, and that this was said in response to people who referred to the terrorists as "cowards."

I'm a coward too, but at least I admit it! smile.gif
thekohser
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 1st January 2010, 6:12am) *
Angela, you are a worthless coward. Happy new year to you and that weasel you work with at Wikia. I am sorry for saying that about you, Angela. It was an overreaction to your deleting something that I had spent considerable time working on. Your repeated removal of legitimate content on a website that requested just these types of contributions strikes me as a somewhat cowardly action by an otherwise delightful person. Happy new year to you, and good luck working with Jimmy Wales, even though I have found him to exhibit behaviors that place him in the realm of "the weasel" on the animal personality test.
Greg, this kind of comment is uncalled for. I think you should apologize to her. She's neither worthless or a coward.

Why do you come to her defense? I am willing to discuss her removal of my freely-licensed content from the website where my contribution was expressly requested. I will discuss it on Wikia, or on Wikipedia Review. Where is she?

This site can't be taken seriously if the things people say here are wrong. Angela is no coward and she's not worthless. You're wrong, Greg, and your comments were uncalled for. She didn't do anything to merit that type of nastiness. You should apologize to her.


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