Mon 1st November 2010, 7:03am
QUOTE(Zoloft @ Sun 31st October 2010, 10:14am)
Seth got really toasty right back...
00:14 < SethFinkelstein> Ms. Gardner, excuse me - given the amount of attack and bona-fide libel I've endured from WIKIMEDIA PEOPLE - including several attempts to intimidate me or retaliate over critical coverage - I have ZERO sympathy for your feelings of being irritated over these sorts of questions :-(
You have to feel a little sorry for Seth, trying again and again to ask about the Q2 Consulting contract, only to be ignored each time. I think we can definitively conclude that the Q2 contract was pure cronyism, but we can hardly blame Sue Gardner for avoiding the question - what's she supposed to say when confronted with it? "I'm sorry, that was poor judgement on our part"?
She can't say that, because that almost has to be followed with "but we won't do it again," and it's fairly clear that they will
do it again, because they're part of Wikipedia and hey, the rules don't apply to them.
What's more, it's important that at least some of the money goes to a good cause, and therefore it can't go to Wikipedia.
Still, the obvious avoidance of the question does suggest that the contract was worth more than they let on! At this point I'd have to guess $10,000, maybe even a little more than that.
As for Mr. Privatemusings, it seemed like he was trying to point out that having certain porn images (the definitely-illegal ones) remain "on the servers" after being "oversighted" might put them all in legal jeopardy, even though only the developers and people with steward and/or oversight rights can still see them. In that case, I suspect most people actually would think those restrictions are adequate, particularly since they've taken some steps to ensure that users with those access rights are over 18.
At the same time, I personally don't see why they don't delete them completely - I'm assuming here that if they've been doing that, Sue would say so. There may even be some reason for keeping them that's related to law-enforcement requirements in some way, but I seriously doubt that.