Rupert Thurner rupert.thurner at gmail.comMon Feb 21 07:06:46 UTC 2011
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On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 20:04, Sue Gardner <sgardner at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> I did a superfast compilation of online comments by women talking
> about why they don't edit Wikipedia:
>
>
suegardner.org/2011/02/19/nine-reasons-why-women-dont-edit-wikipedia-in-their-own-words>
> A couple of things struck me: Most of the reasons cited by women for
> not editing probably apply to men too. Most are deeply rooted culture
> stuff that will take time to change. And I was particularly interested
> to read women saying they believe the bar for notability is higher for
> the topics they write about, than it is for 'male' or 'ungendered'
> topics.
>
> Thanks,
> Sue
>
hi sue, that sounds really interesting, i immediately tested the reasons
with people i know. the answers i got were:
* no time,
* no interest,
* what is wikipedia / you can edit wikipedia?
while "no time" is a very prominent and simple reason, this would match
every person. as at the end of the day it is a decision between editing
wikipedia and watch tv, edit wikipedia and hike, edit wikipedia and blog, …
then i looked at edit counts of arbitrarily chosen women i know the user
name of [1], starting with you as you wrote this email. as participating in
wikipedia is a social thing, i was wondering who dragged you into wikipedia,
and whom did you drag into it? and how? how much of your free time /
holiday do you spend for wikipedia?
coming from edit counts i then looked at user profiles, blogs, titters, etc
to get an impression about the internet / social network participation in
general. again a couple of arbitrary links [2].
then i was wondering about you, beeing related to the internet business and
the social aspects of it for an eternity in internet terms of time. and i
thought about richard branson, who stated in "loosing my virginity" that his
market surveys often include only one opinion: his own. if richard branson
is right, then we can take sue gardners edit count as indication, that the
whole thing is moving in the right direction (IMG:
smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
take your last trip i can remember, going to india. highly successful from a
professional pov, there is now a chapter, etc. you took the time to prepare
the travel, to read about the region and the people, you took the time to
blog/twitter about it, to write a report to the wmf board, but did you edit
the article about india? did you upload a foto to commons?
what needs to be changed that you would have done this?
rupert.
[1] just a few edit counts …
* sue in en:
toolserver.org/~river/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Sue Gardner&dbname=enwiki_p* sue in commons:
toolserver.org/~river/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Sue Gardner&dbname=commonswiki_p* angela recent contributions:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Angela* angela in en:
toolserver.org/~river/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Angela&dbname=enwiki_p* delphine in fr:
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Notafish* [Jimbo Wales]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jimbo Wales[2] user profiles …
*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sue_Gardner*
http://www.linkedin.com/in/suegardner*
http://au.linkedin.com/in/angelabeesley*
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jimmy-wales/0/a8b/919*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo