Oh my god! Ryulong is Danny's son or maybe even Danny! Options

[LamontStormstar]

In one thread a ways back I speculated on Ryulong being the son of Jayjg and SlimVirgin.

In yet another thread somwhere someone else said that Ryulong obviously is a sock puppet of another administrator. I asked some questions and yada yada, nothing came of it.

I'll get right down to it.

Danny and Ryulong both moved from Brooklyn, New York to Florida.

See their IPs
http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/cgi-bin/girc.cgi?Na=Ryulong
http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/cgi-bin/girc.cgi?Na=Danny

Also old versions of Ryulong's userpage said he was from Brooklyn. It may still say it somewhere. Even if he deletes it, there are lots of mirrors. Danny's userpage says he moved from somewhere to Florida.


Wikipedia watch has:

Danny
administrator
Jimbo's executive assistant
(resigned 2007-03-20)
Danny Wool
St.Petersburg, Florida, USA
born:1963-09-07
formerly lived in Brooklyn, where he worked
for the Museum of Jewish Heritage in New York

Another similarity.

Ryulong's last adminship had too low a percentage for him to be nominated, but Raul made him admin despite this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...nship/Ryulong_3


Danny, despite resigning, ran for adminship again and then despite losing, Raul made him admin anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...ly_unacceptable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...Dan.27s_conduct



Here's the kicker.....

August 2, Ryulong deleted my userpage purely because he saw me posting on Wikipedia Review. Majorly then restored it August 24th. September 14th, Ryulong came and deleted it. A MERE FOUR MINUTES LATER, Danny came and deleted my talk page. I thought at the time someone emailed a bunch of admins, but it turns out that's not the case.


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...LamontStormstar
01:57, 14 September 2007 Ryulong (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:LamontStormstar" ? (User's only edit to this page was to add {{wikibreak}} and the user has made absolutely no contributions elsewhere. Wikipedia is not a free webhost.)
18:20, 24 August 2007 Majorly (Talk | contribs) restored "User:LamontStormstar" ? (3 revision(s) restored: must have been a mistaken delete on Ryulong's part. Restoring.)
08:02, 2 August 2007 Ryulong (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:LamontStormstar" ? (User has not edited Wikipedia in a year; WP:NOT#WEBSPACE)



http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...LamontStormstar
02:01, 14 September 2007 Danny (Talk | contribs) deleted "User talk:LamontStormstar" ? (content was: ''''Welcome!'''Hello, {{BASEPAGENAME}}, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like ...')


The evidence here points to Ryulong being the same person as Danny, however Danny is 44 years old right now. And yet, Ryulong has a huge fascination with Japanese children's TV shows--not stuff when Danny was a kid that he may be nostalogic about but children's shows for a person born in 1990 and later. So unless Ryulong is his son, then Danny at age 44 has a huge obsession with lots of children's TV shows and that is TRULY DISTURBING.



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[dtobias]

This is the sort of thread that gives WR a bad name as an "attack site", when you go into flights of bizarre speculation about what the real-life relationship might be between various editors and admins, with digressions where you sneer at their apparent interests, hobbies, and so on. Can't you stick to actual proven facts that are relevant to conflicts of interest you're exposing, instead of random smears that you hope will stick?

[Firsfron of Ronchester]

This is the sort of thread that gives WR a bad name as an "attack site", when you go into flights of bizarre speculation about what the real-life relationship might be between various editors and admins, with digressions where you sneer at their apparent interests, hobbies, and so on. Can't you stick to actual proven facts that are relevant to conflicts of interest you're exposing, instead of random smears that you hope will stick?

I can only agree, Dan. I'm not sure what caused this round of speculation, but the "links" between these editors are not at all convincing. WR is better than this sort of commentary. Who cares if someone edits kiddie shows? Someone has to (besides the kiddies). If there was a conflict of interest , I think it should be exposed, but I don't see anything like that here.

[Jonny Cache]

Who cares if someone edits kiddie shows? Someone has to (besides the kiddies). If there was a conflict of interest , I think it should be exposed, but I don't see anything like that here.

People have given you abundant good reason to care about the fact that someone with the mentality of an 8 year old on crack is taking major editorial control over the state of articles and the retention of editors in areas that he or she does not know squat about.

People have given you ample evidence to make it clear that there is an Inherent Conflict Of Interest between the Interest of people who are pathological liars � who lie about their names, their education, their personal data, their qualifications, and everything else they find it convenient to lie about � and the Interest of building an educational resource founded on reality and truth.

But you find it convenient to ignore all that, and you continue to disgust us with your moronic excuses for crimes against knowledge.

Go back where you can still win arguments by pretending to be ignorant, even moreso by actually being an ediot.

Jon Awbrey

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[Castle Rock]

Who cares if someone edits kiddie shows? Someone has to (besides the kiddies). If there was a conflict of interest , I think it should be exposed, but I don't see anything like that here.

People have given you abundant good reason to care about the fact that someone with the mentality of an 8 year old on crack is taking major editorial control over the state of articles and the retention of editors in areas that he or she does not know squat about.

People have given you ample evidence to make it clear that there is an Inherent Conflict Of Interest between the Interest of people who are pathological liars � who lie about their names, their education, their personal data, their qualifications, and everything else they find it convenient to lie about � and the Interest of building an educational resource founded on reality and truth.

But you find it convenient to ignore all that, and you continue to disgust us with your moronic excuses for crimes against knowledge.

Go back where you can still win arguments by pretending to be ignorant, even moreso by actually being an ediot.

Jon Awbrey

What the hell are you talking about? No credible evidence has been presented here. As for Ryulong asserting major control, I think that is in your mind only. Look at his edits and take off the tinfoil hat.

[Somey]

What the hell are you talking about? No credible evidence has been presented here. As for Ryulong asserting major control, I think that is in your mind only. Look at his edits and take off the tinfoil hat.

So what does everyone think, then? Should we move this thread to the tar pit, or maybe delete it completely? I mean, Lamont started it, and it's not like he isn't used to it...

I voted that they were the same person anyway, just so Lamont wouldn't feel like nobody loves him.

[Kato]

What the hell are you talking about? No credible evidence has been presented here. As for Ryulong asserting major control, I think that is in your mind only. Look at his edits and take off the tinfoil hat.

So what does everyone think, then? Should we move this thread to the tar pit, or maybe delete it completely?

Delete it completely? That seems a bit harsh. Could we at least keep in the tarpit for future reference?

[GlassBeadGame]

What the hell are you talking about? No credible evidence has been presented here. As for Ryulong asserting major control, I think that is in your mind only. Look at his edits and take off the tinfoil hat.

So what does everyone think, then? Should we move this thread to the tar pit, or maybe delete it completely?

Delete it completely? That seems a bit harsh. Could we at least keep in the tarpit for future reference?

I think the thread demonstrates WR's ability to sort out the merits of various assertions and should be kept as and where it is now. It also shows that we can tolerate criticism without becoming hysterical. Lamont will have a better day tomorrow.

[Somey]

...Lamont will have a better day tomorrow.

Yeah, maybe he'll decide that ElinorD is actually the Queen of England! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laughing.gif)

Still, lest we forget, I myself wouldn't even be here if it weren't for precisely this sort of vaguely-sourced, geographically-challenged misidentification. And I'm only half the distance from Lir that Ryulong is from Danny. What's more, Lir and I don't even live in Iowa "in a similar way" - apparently he lives in some sort of low-cost apartment complex near a large, shady college campus, whereas I live in a massive underground laboratory complex run by a large, shadowy megacorporation. (I know, it sounds similar, but it's really not.)

You'll be hearing more about us, though, once our new "zombie" toxin is developed.

[Derktar]

Well let's put this to rest finally, Ryulong, old chap, we need your side of the story, will you abide?

[Ryulong]

Well let's put this to rest finally, Ryulong, old chap, we need your side of the story, will you abide?

I just find it hilarious that LamontStormstar is connecting "OMG THEY'RE JEWS", "OMG THEY'RE FROM NEW YORK", and "OMG THEY'RE IN FLORIDA" to try and make some sort of crazy conspiracy theory in his mind to state that I am the son of any Wikipedia editor, let alone Danny, SlimVirgin, or Jayjg. I've never met these people in life, nor do I even speak to them on Wikipedia (except for the time where I asked Danny to nuke User talk:LamontStormstar after realizing that Lamont only created his user and user talk pages under that name that he connects with his account here).

Unless that mass of text was incomprehensible, here's the summary:

• I am not Danny, SlimVirgin, or Jayjg's son
• I am not Danny, SlimVirgin, or Jayjg
• I am not Danny, SlimVirgin, or Jayjg's family member, gay lover, best friend forever, or something.
• I am, and have always been, male
• The only relative I have who edits Wikipedia (as far as I know) is my younger brother
• I've read WR since early August when it was directed to me that Ionas68224 was posting incomprehensible rants here saying that he was unjustly banned for directly disrupting my RfC
• I don't watch anime (I hate the entirely popular shit that's on Cartoon Network)
• I really go to the University of Miami (I'm sure that my IP's been checked)
• Half the shit Brandt found out about me that's listed in another thread isn't all that determining about my real identity (zomg my first name and birth date) and most of it is already on my user page in some form
• I'm not any higher-up's (actual Wikipedia "hierarchy" or the ones you have all developed) sockpuppet/meatpuppet/unwilling-puppet
• I'm much less important and omnipotent as a bunch of you make me out to be
• lol, lists

And just so you have "proof" of some of the "wild claims" that some of you don't believe due to the Essjay debacle:
(IMG:http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/636/pa010001ob0.th.jpg)
Oh, I was reading Discover Magazine's article about how there's a population boom in jellyfish, which mentioned Nemopilema nomurai, and I saw that someone screwed up the article.

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[Kato]

[*]I'm much less important and omnipotent as a bunch of you make me out to be

Hi Ryulong.

Well you took the bait. I don't think anyone believed a word of Lamont's "theory" in the first place.

Anyway, you're too modest. You've been quite important to the people you banned outside due process, the people who had their biographies deleted out of process, the people you accused of being sockpuppets of someone else out of process, etc etc.

I haven't been following your career very closely, but people don't generally get crazy en masse about an admin unless there is a pretty good reason. NYBrad told you the reason on your own page. So there's substance there, if not in Lamont's crazy theory.

So. I think it's time to hand over the tools and sit back on the bench, Mr. Ryulong.

That job just doesn't suit you. And I think you know it.

[Ryulong]

[*]I'm much less important and omnipotent as a bunch of you make me out to be

Anyway, you're too modest. You've been quite important to the people you banned outside due process, the people who had their biographies deleted out of process, the people you accused of being sockpuppets of someone else out of process, etc etc.

Maybe "important" wasn't the right word, but a hell of a lot of posters here think I have access to some sort of higher Wikipedia power (imagined or otherwise).

I haven't been following your career very closely, but people don't generally get crazy en masse about an admin unless there is a pretty good reason. NYBrad told you the reason on your own page. So there's substance there, if not in Lamont's crazy theory.

So. I think it's time to hand over the tools and sit back on the bench, Mr. Ryulong.

That job just doesn't suit you. And I think you know it.

I know I've fucked up a handful of times, but I've never fucked up the same way twice (that's called learning from your mistakes). And people go crazy over less shit on these here intarwebs. I have no clue why I'm Lamont's favorite lately. There have to be people who make more mistakes than I have through admin duties.

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[Kato]

There have to be people who make more mistakes than I have through admin duties.

Well that's probably true. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/happy.gif)

Why don't you edit the articles on your chosen field of study? You know, tell the world about what you know? I'd have thought that would be the purpose of anyone coming to wikipedia in the first place. Why this need to block people and revert vandals so relentlessly and play RoboCop? Why is that more important to you than writing and developing a body of work?