Worst of the Wannabees Options

[Peter Damian]

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Save the 'hasten the day' socks for the inevitable RFA of Coldplay Expert (T-C-L-K-R-D) , almost certainly the most slack-jawed and drooling of the current crop of wannabees.

I haven't really followed the careers of the newer ones climbing the ladder of success on Planet Wiki. Any suggestions for other would-be admins like 'Coldplay Expert' - examples of noxious and sick-making behaviour would be useful.

Perhaps we could draw up a shortlist for the WP:DICK awards.

[Eva Destruction]

I'm quite taken by the "This user knows that Nazi Germany is in no way assiciated with the real Germany" on CE's userpage. Presumably all the real Germans popped out to the shops, and when they weren't looking those sneaky imposters occupied Western Europe.

[Trick cyclist]

I'm quite taken by the "This user knows that Nazi Germany is in no way assiciated with the real Germany" on CE's userpage. Presumably all the real Germans popped out to the shops, and when they weren't looking those sneaky imposters occupied Western Europe.

Perhaps he could explain then why there are former Nazis, involved in the occupation of Denmark, still living in Germany?

There is a story "The Groaning Hinges of the World" by R A Lafferty that suggests that every so often various places in the world such as Germany flip over and swap the people living there for subterranean people. Maybe hes read that story.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

I'm quite taken by the "This user knows that Nazi Germany is in no way assiciated with the real Germany" on CE's userpage. Presumably all the real Germans popped out to the shops, and when they weren't looking those sneaky imposters occupied Western Europe.

Perhaps he could explain then why there are former Nazis, involved in the occupation of Denmark, still living in Germany?

He said "the real Germany," and he has a point. Much of what gave Germans a sense of national pride (as Das Land der Dichter und Denker - the land of poets and thinkers) was suppressed or destroyed under the Nazis. Take, for example, the works of Heinrich Heine. And although it may seem like an overly technical point, Hitler was not German. He was Austrian.

There was a useful study of one facet of the issue in the film Taking Sides.

[Trick cyclist]

Perhaps he could explain then why there are former Nazis, involved in the occupation of Denmark, still living in Germany?

He said "the real Germany," and he has a point. Much of what gave Germans a sense of national pride (as Das Land der Dichter und Denker - the land of poets and thinkers) was suppressed or destroyed under the Nazis.

So today's Germany is still not "the real Germany"? After over 60 years they haven't restored it?

[Coldplay Expert]

Perhaps he could explain then why there are former Nazis, involved in the occupation of Denmark, still living in Germany?

He said "the real Germany," and he has a point. Much of what gave Germans a sense of national pride (as Das Land der Dichter und Denker - the land of poets and thinkers) was suppressed or destroyed under the Nazis.

So today's Germany is still not "the real Germany"? After over 60 years they haven't restored it?

Not once did I ever say that. I said that Nazi Geramn and Germany are two diffrent governments. But there are those who seem to think otherwise. And I must admit, have an admin called "Coldplay Expert" on wikipedia is probably not a good idea for public relations. But I never did like my name anyway. I just never bothered to change it because I could'nt think of anything else.

I thought there was some age limit to membership here? Coldplay appears to be only 15.

I checked his user & talk pages, but didn't see anything resembling an age declaration...? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

(Addendum) Okay, I found this where he admits to being a "minor," but in the USA that just means he's under 18, not under 16... His propensity for spelling mistakes tends to suggest younger rather than older, but without something more definitive, I guess I'm inclined to not worry about it.

He has claimed on wikipedia to be 15, not 16 until April 3. Can't be bothered to go looking for where though. Isn't there some question about age that is supposed to be answered honestly when members register here? Why was JulianColton suspended last year?

Malleus, it was 13 years old, not 15.

[Somey]

Malleus, it was 13 years old, not 15.

Right - the rule is that you can register here if you're 13, 14, or 15, and as long as we don't find out how old you are, all is well. We don't go actively looking for that information beyond viewing user pages and such on WP, but if someone brings it to our attention (including links to off-site material) and the facts are essentially indisputable, then that means a suspension for however long it is until the person's 16th birthday.

We keep meaning to spell that out explicitly somewhere, but of course, spelling it out explicitly would probably just get us into even more trouble! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Coldplay Expert]

Malleus, it was 13 years old, not 15.

Right - the rule is that you can register here if you're 13, 14, or 15, and as long as we don't find out how old you are, all is well. We don't go actively looking for that information beyond viewing user pages and such on WP, but if someone brings it to our attention (including links to off-site material) and the facts are essentially indisputable, then that means a suspension for however long it is until the person's 16th birthday.

We keep meaning to spell that out explicitly somewhere, but of course, spelling it out explicitly would probably just get us into even more trouble! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

I don't really care if im suspended. To be honest, after reading this thread, I hate this place... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif)

[RMHED]

Malleus, it was 13 years old, not 15.

Right - the rule is that you can register here if you're 13, 14, or 15, and as long as we don't find out how old you are, all is well. We don't go actively looking for that information beyond viewing user pages and such on WP, but if someone brings it to our attention (including links to off-site material) and the facts are essentially indisputable, then that means a suspension for however long it is until the person's 16th birthday.

We keep meaning to spell that out explicitly somewhere, but of course, spelling it out explicitly would probably just get us into even more trouble! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

I don't really care if im suspended. To be honest, after reading this thread, I hate this place... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif)

Quite right too!

This is no place for a fine upstanding young Wikipedian such as yourself.

Why not do some serious buttsnorkeling on Jimmy's talkpage instead. Go on you know you want to.

[Coldplay Expert]

Malleus, it was 13 years old, not 15.

Right - the rule is that you can register here if you're 13, 14, or 15, and as long as we don't find out how old you are, all is well. We don't go actively looking for that information beyond viewing user pages and such on WP, but if someone brings it to our attention (including links to off-site material) and the facts are essentially indisputable, then that means a suspension for however long it is until the person's 16th birthday.

We keep meaning to spell that out explicitly somewhere, but of course, spelling it out explicitly would probably just get us into even more trouble! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

I don't really care if im suspended. To be honest, after reading this thread, I hate this place... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif)

Quite right too!

This is no place for a fine upstanding young Wikipedian such as yourself.

Why not do some serious buttsnorkeling on Jimmy's talkpage instead. Go on you know you want to.

In case you missed the last page and a half, im not an upstanding wikipedian. Rather, the opposite. Thanks though...

[RMHED]

Malleus, it was 13 years old, not 15.

Right - the rule is that you can register here if you're 13, 14, or 15, and as long as we don't find out how old you are, all is well. We don't go actively looking for that information beyond viewing user pages and such on WP, but if someone brings it to our attention (including links to off-site material) and the facts are essentially indisputable, then that means a suspension for however long it is until the person's 16th birthday.

We keep meaning to spell that out explicitly somewhere, but of course, spelling it out explicitly would probably just get us into even more trouble! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

I don't really care if im suspended. To be honest, after reading this thread, I hate this place... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif)

Quite right too!

This is no place for a fine upstanding young Wikipedian such as yourself.

Why not do some serious buttsnorkeling on Jimmy's talkpage instead. Go on you know you want to.

In case you missed the last page and a half, im not an upstanding wikipedian. Rather, the opposite. Thanks though...

Multiple criticism on Wikipedia Review almost certainly means you're a fine upstanding Wikipedian.

[Malleus]

Multiple criticism on Wikipedia Review almost certainly means you're a fine upstanding Wikipedian.

Perhaps sometimes, but not this time.

[Coldplay Expert]

Multiple criticism on Wikipedia Review almost certainly means you're a fine upstanding Wikipedian.

Perhaps sometimes, but not this time.

Im going to have to agree with Malleus here. I have so real and valid issues that I need to fix. And while they were presented to me in a rude way here, it has actually opened up my eyes. And yes Maleus, I will follow the advice of Julian.

[Malleus]

Multiple criticism on Wikipedia Review almost certainly means you're a fine upstanding Wikipedian.

Perhaps sometimes, but not this time.

Im going to have to agree with Malleus here. I have so real and valid issues that I need to fix. And while they were presented to me in a rude way here, it has actually opened up my eyes. And yes Maleus, I will follow the advice of Julian.

Good. Then we can perhaps close this rather unpleasant chapter now.

I mean you no ill will Coldplay, but the purpose of wikipedia, at least to my understanding, is to build a free encylopedia, not to make friends.

[RMHED]

Multiple criticism on Wikipedia Review almost certainly means you're a fine upstanding Wikipedian.

Perhaps sometimes, but not this time.

Im going to have to agree with Malleus here. I have so real and valid issues that I need to fix. And while they were presented to me in a rude way here, it has actually opened up my eyes. And yes Maleus, I will follow the advice of Julian.

Good. Then we can perhaps close this rather unpleasant chapter now.

I mean you no ill will Coldplay, but the purpose of wikipedia, at least to my understanding, is to build a free encylopedia, not to make friends.

Good Christ you really are a naive twat aren't you.

[Malleus]

Good Christ you really are a naive twat aren't you.

Better than than just a twat like you.

I know that we are all here to build an encyclopedia. In fact when I joined, that was what I planned to do. But I seemed to have gotten off topic in my work. (Hense the large pink spot in my editing pie chart)

We're none of us perfect, we just do the best we can as we see it. Let's put this behind us now.

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[EricBarbour]

Good Christ you really are a naive twat aren't you.

Better than than just a twat like you.

Ahem. That's "Drunken twat".

Oh god, this thread is sooo inspiring, it's making me all teary-eyed!
To watch a 13-year-old boy being beaten up by disgruntled Wikipedia admins!!

Just explain to CE what he's supposed to do on Wikipedia, and leave him be.

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[Coldplay Expert]

Good Christ you really are a naive twat aren't you.

Better than than just a twat like you.

Ahem. That's "Drunken twat".

Oh god, this thread is sooo inspiring, it's making me all teary-eyed!
To watch a 13-year-old boy being beaten up by disgruntled Wikipedia admins!!

Just explain to CE what he's supposed to do on Wikipedia, and leave him be.

Um..Im not 13. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

Good Christ you really are a naive twat aren't you.

Better than than just a twat like you.

Ahem. That's "Drunken twat".

Oh god, this thread is sooo inspiring, it's making me all teary-eyed!
To watch a 13-year-old boy being beaten up by disgruntled Wikipedia admins!!

I'm not a wikipedia admin, and never will be. I'm happy to beat up anyone, regardless of "status", age, or creed.

Can someone move/delete this drivel?

If you don't like it, don't read it.

Malleus, were'nt you an admin at one point? What happened?

[Somey]

Um..Im not 13. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

Would there be any point in simply asking you if you're under 16, then? Or more to the point, if someone looked hard enough, would they eventually find something on Wikipedia that would lead most people to make that conclusion?

[SB_Johnny]

Um..Im not 13. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

Would there be any point in simply asking you if you're under 16, then? Or more to the point, if someone looked hard enough, would they eventually find something on Wikipedia that would lead most people to make that conclusion?

This age thing seems so arbitrary. Maybe it should be tied to maturity metrics like virginity, belief in Santa Claus, preference for wine coolers over beer...

[Somey]

This age thing seems so arbitrary. Maybe it should be tied to maturity metrics like virginity, belief in Santa Claus, preference for wine coolers over beer...

If only! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

Age-based cutoffs for things like drinking and driving and (ahem) sex are obviously flawed and fail to take individual differences into account, but society develops these kinds of things for a reason, and IMO that reason is basic human nature. Obviously if you ask a 14-year-old if he wants to be able to drink and drive and... well, you know with impunity, he's going to say "yes," right? And you can't do thorough psychological evaluations on every one of them just for purposes like that... it's just one of those concessions to practicality and realism that make modern society what it is - a complete catastrophe to be sure, but it's a consistent catastrophe at least, for the most part.

[SB_Johnny]

If only! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

...

Okay, I promise to get right on that sarcasm emoticon as soon as I finish up with my better mousetrap! Just be patient. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Somey]

Okay, I promise to get right on that sarcasm emoticon as soon as I finish up with my better mousetrap! Just be patient. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

Well, I knew you were being sarcastic, I just don't want people to think we're completely unreasonable. Most of us do (believe it or not) recognize that there are kids under the age of 16 who are, in many (if not all) ways, more mature, sensible, and responsible than adults of all sorts of ages. That includes at least two or three who have registered WR accounts... But it's obviously a qualitative judgment, and any evidence you might find to support it in any given case might be false, etc., etc.

[Coldplay Expert]

Okay, I promise to get right on that sarcasm emoticon as soon as I finish up with my better mousetrap! Just be patient. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

Well, I knew you were being sarcastic, I just don't want people to think we're completely unreasonable. Most of us do (believe it or not) recognize that there are kids under the age of 16 who are, in many (if not all) ways, more mature, sensible, and responsible than adults of all sorts of ages. That includes at least two or three who have registered WR accounts... But it's obviously a qualitative judgment, and any evidence you might find to support it in any given case might be false, etc., etc.

So true. For example im sure that Julian is not stupid enough to drink and drive. Or any of the other things mentioned above. But society seems to group all minors as being complete idiots and sex adicts that, if given a beer and car keys, would be dead by midnight. There are a lot of exeptions though. And how did this thread go from bashing me to talking about minors with beer and cars? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif)

[Juliancolton]

So true. For example im sure that Julian is not stupid enough to drink and drive. Or any of the other things mentioned above. But society seems to group all minors as being complete idiots and sex adicts that, if given a beer and car keys, would be dead by midnight. There are a lot of exeptions though. And how did this thread go from bashing me to talking about minors with beer and cars? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif)

What kind of argument is that? Society, aside from a few substantial restrictions, is now quite tolerant of minors. Some people on Wikipedia believe that minors aren't suitable for adminship, but really, a few people on a website aren't representative of the real world...

[Coldplay Expert]

So true. For example im sure that Julian is not stupid enough to drink and drive. Or any of the other things mentioned above. But society seems to group all minors as being complete idiots and sex adicts that, if given a beer and car keys, would be dead by midnight. There are a lot of exeptions though. And how did this thread go from bashing me to talking about minors with beer and cars? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif)

What kind of argument is that? Society, aside from a few substantial restrictions, is now quite tolerant of minors. Some people on Wikipedia believe that minors aren't suitable for adminship, but really, a few people on a website aren't representative of the real world...

Maybe my view is based off of where I live. And it was'nt an argument but a statment. Sorry if im wrong.... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) Im just makeing a fool of myself here. I'll stop.

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[Somey]

Maybe my view is based off of where I live.

In a Shaker community?

And it was'nt an argument but a statment. Sorry if im wrong.... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) Im just makeing a fool of myself here. I'll stop.

OK.

[Coldplay Expert]

Maybe my view is based off of where I live.

In a Shaker community?

And it was'nt an argument but a statment. Sorry if im wrong.... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) Im just makeing a fool of myself here. I'll stop.

OK.

What the heck is a Shaker? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif)

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[Somey]

What the heck is a Shaker? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif)

Look it up - it's not all that bad an article, really: Shakers (T-H-L-K-D)

[Coldplay Expert]

Look it up - it's not all that bad an article, really: Shakers (T-H-L-K-D)

Um...no. I don't live in a Shaker community. Just a redneck one with a touch of Northern Virginian liberalism....

[Somey]

Um...no. I don't live in a Shaker community. Just a redneck one with a touch of Northern Virginian liberalism....

That's pretty much where I'm from, but I'm willing to assume most people aren't going to view your attitudes as typical.

Still, I can see how you might cause people a certain amount of frustration. Good luck on your RfA! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

[Coldplay Expert]

Good luck on your RfA! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

Uh..was that sarcastic? Im not going up for one! I would never even nominate myself!

[Eva Destruction]

Uh..was that sarcastic? Im not going up for one! I would never even nominate myself!

You do know we can read here, right?

[Coldplay Expert]

You do know we can read here, right?

Have you taken a look at my userpage recently?

[wikademia.org]

Have you taken a look at my userpage recently?

the word on the street is that rollback is a gateway bit. just be careful human, that is all i am saying.

[Coldplay Expert]

the word on the street is that rollback is a gateway bit. just be careful human, that is all i am saying.

What? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif)

[wikademia.org]

What? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif)

history repeats itself unless ...

i dunno.. if we don't forget history, then are we doomed to repeat it? oh how these existential quandries...


no. be an admin! donate all your time to the Wikimedia Foundation. Do it for the poor children in Africa... do it to cure poverty, disease, and starvation. Encyc.org.